Shame on Showtime. Not one mention of Wladimir

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  1. Toker

    Toker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    hahahaha!!! And cheese apparently lol!!
     
  2. retriever

    retriever Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol! How many again who watched Wilder live at MGM?:D
     
  3. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not proper to talk about the dead. Nobody wants to hear about that dull disgusting fraud.
     
  4. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Big difference between the two. B-Hop as fought and beaten several future Hall of fame fighters and greats in 3 different divisions. Wlad has yet to beat one during his reign.

    Heavyweight wise. Louis beat Baer, Schmelling, Conn. Marciano beat Charles, Willcott, Moore. I'm not counting the Louis win, too much past his prime. You get the point. The guys you named at least beat Hall of famers during there reigns as champ.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    And how someone could become HOF, when Klitschko beat them all and not allow someone to shine, cause he is too good ?!!!
    The name Klitschko beat is better then the name you say. I dont see how guys you mention would beat Haye, Povetkin, Pulev, etc.
     
  6. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We will never know. With the advancements in exercise, nutrition, and supplements. Fighters like Louis and Marciano would be even better today. As far as what they do after Wlad, most retire or get laid out by another fighter. 3 out 4 of Wlad's best wins, are retired or inactive. After Wlad beat Peter the second time, he would go on to lose to Chambers and knocked out against Helenius. He's basically retired at this point. Haye had some success, but other than beating Chisora he's done nothing because of injury. Bryd went on to fight Povetkin and got schooled, then drop down in weight in embarrass himself. Now retired.

    Povetkin is the only hope for a Hall of Fame Heavyweight Wlad would have beaten. Time will tell.
     
  7. kirk

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    Except... they did.
     
  8. skier47

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    Ah, rubbish. You don't believe your own nonsense. Wlad has wiped the floor with the top dogs of the heavyweight division for a decade now. No era lasts that long. Bad eras in boxing last maybe five or six years. Holmes replaced Ali and Tyson took on the mantle after Holmes got old by slaughtering Spinks who took advantage of the aging Holmes. Wlad's reign of dominance is becoming historical, even the hater Kellerman is admitting it; time you did it too, son.
     
  9. Toker

    Toker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bhop's middleweight reign only really had Glen Johnson in it, other than two welterweights that had no business fighting at that weight. Billy Conn is a lightheavy. Maybe if Haye would of stayed a bit longer at Cruiser and unified you might consider Wlad's victory over him in higher regard. The only reason Max Schmeling is held in high regard is for beating Louis in the first place. Baer is a good one though.

    Ok where are we now...Walcott good victory, but he was crazy old and has always been over rated. Ezzard Charles great Lt.Heavy but all he did was beat Walcott (we're not counting Louis like you said). Moore again great Lt. Heavy but this dude couldn't even beat Patterson. He never quite could reach the top at Heavy.

    Look I really do rank all these people highly, but I'm using the same standard that's being used against Klitschko against these champs. I honestly think that people inflate the victories of those the like and degrade the victories of those they dislike. I also see that sometimes people hate winners, don't know why though...
     
  10. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    Been a long time waiting hasn't it, over 10 years now.....might want to move on, because it isn't happening.
     
  11. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    You mean after Vitali retired him? :hat
     
  12. Clarkson

    Clarkson Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Titlist is more accurate than champ.
     
  13. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stiverne looked terrible last night. He couldnt cut the ring of, no combination punches and couldnt jab yet was still able to catch Wilder and hurt him a little.

    Cant believ im saying this but Wilder made Fury look like mayweather in there
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I think they were shocked/surprised Wilder won. Either way let Wilder have his day and enjoy the win Wlad gets enough attention
     
  15. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Silly thing to complain about imo.