Mike Tyson - The Hardest puncher in History

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I generally believe in results. Tyson has one the most impressive KO records over elite fighters the division has ever seen. This isn't even up for argument.
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im just trying to show that Tysons power/finishing skills were legit, especially when measured against the other greats of his era.

    Why is there question marks surrounding Tysons power when he knocked out the same guys Lewis gets credit for knocking out.

    What EVERYBODY mentions is Tyson couldnt stop Tucker, what NOBODY mentions is Lewis couldnt stop him either.

    Tyson/Lewis had comparable results and i do believe there power was more or less equal, but like you said, they delivered it a bit differently

    Ok Tyson TKO7/UD12 Ruddock and Lewis TKO2 Ruddock

    but then Tyson KO3/5 Bruno and Lewis KO7
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think i pretty much nailed that on the head in my two posts.

    If Tyson is stopping the same guys Lewis was, the same guys Bowe and Foreman couldnt stop, the same guys who fought Moorer and Holyfield, then that speaks volumes.
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet average hitting Holyfield knocked Douglas the **** out whereas Tyson couldn't.....
     
  5. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who's raising questions about Tyson's punching power??

    He sure as hell isn't the hardest puncher in history though like the poster who created this thread stated.
     
  6. Seamus

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    He is arguably the greatest KO artist the division has seen which is a much more quantifiable assertion than hardest puncher.
     
  7. Azzer85

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    Thats the point i was trying to make.

    Hardest puncher in itself doesnt mean much.

    WHO you knock out and HOW is a better measurement.
     
  8. Wass1985

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    Well so is Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, George Foreman, Earnie Shavers, Lennox Lewis, Wladamir Klitschko, Deontay Wilder....
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A better measurement on who is the more effective puncher not a measurement for pure punch power.
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    Yes, him and about 5-6 others. You could make roughly the same argument for Dempsey, Lewis, Vitali, Foreman, Shavers, Louis and a couple of other fighters. Purely on a statistical basis I believe Vitali has the highest KO% and Foreman isn't too far behind.
     
  11. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Absolutely Wass. And Azzer, i agree with what you replied to me above.

    Those who keep saying' that who you can KO is most important, effective power...Sure, but myself & most explictly agree.

    But the question was pure force generated, & it is not like this is somehow inapporpriate or trivial to consider.
    It is part of the fun of watching & following boxing, an Eternal Veritie-type topic like many barrom conversations.
     
  12. Vanboxingfan

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    The hardest puncher is at best a nebulas concept.

    Tyson's power is generated largely from speed, while Foremans' power is generated more by brute force. But at the end of the day, the results are roughly equal and really are unmeasurable.

    Even if they fought the same fighter, and they both KO him, they very likely hit him in different spots of the body, which that in itself can make a difference in the force necessary to accomplish this feat. A body shot to the liver is a very different punch than a punch to a granite chin fighter, so presumably the guy who KO'd the granite chin fighter had to throw a much harder punch to accomplish this, even though the end result is the same. So the fighter who may have thrown a body shot and got rid of this fight in the 3rd round, may not have nearly the punching power of the guy who knocked him out in the later rounds with a punch to his granite chin.
     
  13. Azzer85

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    Statistically, we could throw Frank Bruno in there too then. Afterall, he stopped all but 2 of his opponents and one of those was Oliver Mcall.
     
  14. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well no because he also couldn't stop Smith, Witherspoon, Tyson and Lewis either...
     
  15. Bummy Davis

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    He was one of the hardest punchers but also had many flaws that were covered up by his power and exposed later on. Power in itself can eliminated much but not all