Why I was going to change my pick pre-fight to Deontay Wilder pver Bermane Stiverne

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  1. GlassJoe

    GlassJoe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Does anyone understand that the prediction wasn't the point? Nor did I even make a prediction on this or any other site? You do realize that I would have NO reason to even include that if I knew this was the absurd reaction I would receive right?

    I wasn't talking about being right about a prediction or anything like that, I was talking about how I (and alot of other people) missed the obvious flaws in Stiverne's boxing. What I didn't include in my original post was a great youtube video which I watched about 3 days prior to the fight and pointed alot of this out prior to the fight. I then went on to watch all of the previous fights of relevance and was not impressed at all https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpRRFK7tM9k


    Of course though, online conversations essentially consist of insults and accusing people of lying so what's the point.
     
  2. GlassJoe

    GlassJoe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Nostradamus level prediction? Are you serious? It requires a high level of accuracy to predict that Stiverne who was thoroughly outboxed against every level of decent fighter he has faced thus far is not a decent champion? Are you kidding me?

    Arreola twice, Austin, King, and now Wilder? No, it didn't require a great deal of insight, just watching the fights. Once again though, the entire point was that for awhile I and everyone else seemed to miss the obvious flaws in his fighting style and ability.
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lying, as in saying you never made a pick when your thread title is "why I was going to change MY PICK ..."

    You need to work on comprehending what you type. You can't say you didn't make a pick after you start a thread that talks about changing your pick.
     
  4. bigbeatbaby

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    Look man, your thoughts are your thoughts. so weather you choose to change them is irrelevant. You are on a forum. did you make a prediction on here? if so your prediction was wrong. If you didn't make a prediction on here, WHO CARES? You just change your mind and don't have to tell anybody. You should just do a thread on why he won the fight and why you NOW think stiverne sucks and not confuse the issue. You patronising douche
     
  5. GlassJoe

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    Talking about my thoughts on and pick on the fight, until about 3 days I ago I began studying his previous fights and style based on a few people I know online who pointed out different weaknesses in Stiverne's fighing style and ability, which is what I've said several times, and you also know that I've said several times that I didn't make any public picks or bets, and what not, so why keep this up? You're simply wrong about it, just admit it and move on man.
     
  6. GlassJoe

    GlassJoe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    Well, I wrote this post to talk about several of Stiverne's previous matches and the prediction (which I never made publicly nor bets etc) became an issue and I get accused to saying things that I didn't or lying, which really has nothing to do with what I was saying at all.

    I just wanted to talk about Stiverne's style, previous fights, lack of defense, ability to move forward fighting, poor counter punching etc.

    The prediction aspect of it was completely irrelevent as I didn't make one publicly and said so over and over again and could care less about being right or wrong on a prediction. I'm a little old for that. My point was in talking about Stiverne, not whether I picked him or not, but more about how wrong I WAS earlier in my thinking about him.
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Is there any OBJECTIVE evidence that this supposed re-evaluation took place.:huh

    If not, then you don't have a leg to stand on, and no one is going to believe your ex-post facto claims.:-(
     
  8. GlassJoe

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    Ok, the title of the post is why I WAS going to change my pre-fight pick and then talked about the fights PRIOR to this fight which caused concern for me. NOT this fight to base my view of Stiverne on.

    How difficult is it to explain that the prediction is NOT what I'm talking about here and really doesn't matter in the context of my post at all. I had no favorite fighter in this match, nor was I rooting for either, but looking at previous matches made me rethink the fight prior to it happening.

    The ENTIRE point was the issues I had after reviewing his fights PRIOR to this one, not whether I thought Stiverne or Wilder would win or if I was right or wrong about it, but the fights PRIOR to this one.

    I made NO prediction on here or bets, at all. This really shouldn't be difficult to understand.
     
  9. GlassJoe

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    Objective evidence of what, that I researched his previous fights, watched them, ****yzed them, and became dubious of Stiverne? What? What are you even talking about, this is ridiculous. Yes, I took screenshots to provide evidence later for people like yourself.

    Of course not, I simply watched a prediction video on youtube which brought up many of these issues and awoke me to them and then after watching his matches I ended up agreeing with the prediction and ****ysis and that's really it. This isn't an international conspiracy here folks.

    Watch the Austin, King, Arreola 1 & 2 and then think about it.
     
  10. The Professor

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  11. GlassJoe

    GlassJoe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    What is wrong with you people? I posted about how I was a little iffy about Stiverne and how I wanted to come on here and post about it before the fight to get other people's perspective after watching a youtube video about 3 days ago which pointed out several flaws in Stiverne's game. I didn't get to post because I was in Toronto the entire day for a friend's birthday party without service on my phone.

    I didn't make a prediction on here or bet, anything. I didn't care who won beyond what I hope is best for boxing as a fan, bu really nothing more and I'm beginning to see a trend in the people responding who had strong biases on the other threads accusing me of changing my view in hindsight.

    I think it's fairly clear now. Also, its obvious the ****ishness of several of the comments as well.
     
  12. GlassJoe

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    The point being that in previous matches he displayed severe limitations which I think limits him not only in this most recent match but several more going forward. That was why I was going to post some thoughts about it but I couldn't at the time, not to make a prediction and scream about being correct or whatever ridiculous assumption you're making.

    Of course it's hindsight when I'm talking about previous matches, as we all are engaging in hindsight, because none of us can foresee the future. yes, indeed.
     
  13. Manfred

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    :lol::lol:
     
  14. GlassJoe

    GlassJoe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    The water isn't very deep on this forum I see.