It's clear now: Malik Scott took a dive

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Lopetego, Jan 18, 2015.


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  1. Lopetego

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    Anyone not drinking the Wilder kool aid already knew this, but it's more clear now than ever

    After fighting Stiverne, now we know Wilder's power is overrated

    His KO streak ended as soon as he stepped up the competition. not a coincidence

    random nobody Demetrice King had more success at hurting Stiverne than Wilder did, Wilder threw the kitchen sink at the fat midget yesterday, yet couldn't stop him

    Wilder is a hard puncher yes, but not the humongous power puncher he was hyped to be

    So no way he has the power to KO his opponent with a half assed slap / set up punch, like he supposedly did against Scott
    :verysad
     
    Lopetego, Jan 18, 2015
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  2. Piece

    Piece Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Scott took a dive too, but that's because Scott was scared.

    Wilder would have knocked him out if Scott came to fight.
     
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  3. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1 guy goes the distance and now Wilder is suddenly downgraded to Malinaggi level punching power.
     
    Jennifer Love Hewitt, Jan 18, 2015
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  4. Lopetego

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    yeah, we'll never know if Scott was paid to take that blatant dive or was just looking for a way out

    either way, its another black eye for the sport
     
    Lopetego, Jan 18, 2015
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Wilder hurt his hand on Bermane massive noggin, that's how hard his head is, some guys just have great chins.
     
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  6. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    I actually think more of Wilders power now then I did before the fight. I didn't take much away from any of his other fights but busting up stiverne and wobbling him like he did shows hes got good power.
     
    kirk, Jan 18, 2015
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  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    Indeed.

    Same thing for Hearns/Hagler

    We all know how hard Hearns hits. But once his fist met Hagler's noggin, it broke. :lol:

    Wilder hurt his hands badly in the 4th/5th round (He confirmed it) and that's why he wasn't throwing it that much in the later rounds.

    Hagler's head is like a football helmet, you aren't going to break it, not even close. The dude's jaw is pure granite. :shock:

    Still, Wilder hurt Stiverne multiple times in the fight and managed to knock him down (Although it did not count). Stiverne stumbled backwards trying to get up cuz he lost his legs temporarily. :D
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Agreed. I see some people are down on his power, and I really don't get it. His power is legit, his IQ is a bit better than I thought, he has tremendous athleticism, the chin seems better than advertised, and what impressed me most was his ability to pace himself efficiently.

    He needs to vastly improve his balance, though.
     
    Rumsfeld, Jan 18, 2015
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  9. kirk

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    I agree on all points.
     
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  10. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    A 6'2 guy is a "midget?"
     
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  11. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Midget is a bit stretching it, but in today's HW division it's at least kinda small.
    There were times when that was a massive HW, but those are long past us now.
     
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  12. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And dehydration weakens the punch resistance...
     
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  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Anyone with a pair of fully working eyes and a fully operational brain knew Scott dived even before the Stiverne fight. He either was paid to dive to make Wilder look good and get him in a position for a title shot or he knew he had no chance and took the easy way out which is just as bad.

    The punch he went down from was a nothing punch, and arm punch as well that was half blocked, he was fully aware when going down, using his arm to cushion his fall and his eyes were fixed and focused on the ref, he had full cognitive ability.

    As for Wilder's power, it clearly isn't at the level it seemed to be when he was knocking out journeymen and shot contenders but he clearly can crack. He would have gotten a knockdown in the 2nd round had he not squared up and allowed himself to be dragged down. But he can clearly punch hard, but I don't think he hits as hard as Wlad or even Povetkin or Stiverne but he has enough power to hurt anyone if he connects cleanly.
     
    Brighton bomber, Jan 19, 2015
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  14. Constable

    Constable Boxing Junkie banned

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    scott and wilder are best friends and scott took a dive for some money
     
    Constable, Jan 19, 2015
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  15. ant-man

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    Scott's a joke.
     
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