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Great info were getting demps!..i wonder if Chavez ran with his boxing shoes?!..(no cushion!)..:nono ...Mayweather was allready the champ in that division right?..if so,i think it shouldve been in area of 1 mil....(but thats just what i think)...thats good to know that looping punches can hurt your shoulders in the long run..what do you think of weight lifting (for muscle size) for Boxers?..slows a fighter..or is it a positive?i think if Tommy Hearns wouldve worked on his legs..wouldve added even more! power to his pnches....bodybuilding for boxing..good or bad? :good

 

i wonder if Chavez ran with his boxing shoes?!..(no cushion!)



Chavez, always had good running shoes concrete and hard surfaces are not good for the knees .. ...Mayweather was allready the champ in that division right?



Yes he was..
if so,i think it shouldve been in area of 1 mil....(but thats just what i think)...

That's why people price themselves out, don't think, know.



thats good to know that looping punches can hurt your shoulders in the long run..what do you think of weight lifting (for muscle size) for Boxers?..slows a fighter..or is it a positive?i think if Tommy Hearns wouldve worked on his legs..wouldve added even more! power to his pnches....bodybuilding for boxing..good or bad?

Wrong person to ask there are many guys on this blog that can give you better advice, like Virus, or S**** they can give you better answers

 

ok..i did see Matador work the heavy bag (in the movie)..he always went all out,heavy punches..doing that day in/day out + plus all the fights with that style (more than likely).will have an effect on shoulder joints....iv heard demps,of fighters having" investors"..how does that work?..why would a fighter need one?..is it a good thing?

 

Say you arent a hot shot am turning pro and have no acclaim or backing, how do you get it so you can be paired as a pro with guys your own level and not hand fed to say the Golden Gloves champ making his pro debut

 

Say you arent a hot shot am turning pro and have no acclaim or backing, how do you get it so you can be paired as a pro with guys your own level and not hand fed to say the Golden Gloves champ making his pro debut

It really depends on you and your team to turn down an opponent that might be too good, too tough, too experienced for your PD cos that is your right. But fair warning, if you turn down an opponent for whatever reason you might be labeled as being afraid even if that's not the case or problematic.
It's been my experienced that if you have nobody behind you with a little weight or behind the scene power, a matchmaker will look at you as just another guy.

 

iv heard demps,of fighters having" investors"..how does that work?..why would a fighter need one?..is it a good thing?

Investors or as they are known in boxing, "Money guys", can be good or bad for a fighter.

The reason a fighter would need one is usually to further the fighters career by giving him the money to get better sparring, better training, getting the fighter the equipment he needs.
But it's a double edged sword, cos if the money guy doesn't bring anything to the table besides money. They start getting ideas, they want to re-invent the wheel. Since they are putting money into a fighter they want to dictate how and when the fighter will train, they start second guessing everybody, then it becomes a major headache. I made that mistake myself, I brought in a money guy, who owned a gym and who told everybody that he has a library of boxing books and he read them all, but he had zero hands on experience. He started trying to dictate and that's where everything went south.

 

Could it work out if everything was put in writting, (a contract),so that the investor could not overide the managers and trainers decisions?..so basically its a loan that after your fights you would have to pay back.... + % intrest?...when Jesus Chavez was fighting..i saw in the movie..that he lived in the gym where he trained.(how many times a day did he train?)a pro fighter can still hold down a job and still train daily..right?..is it really necessary for a fighter to train up to 3x a day?:thumbsup

 

I dont understand the Ali Act demps.(i did look it up in wikipidia..but wasnt clear to me).....a trainer CANNOT also be the manager for his fighter?...isnt it what Emanuel Steward (awesome trainer !!!) did with all his fighters?..why the Ali Act?....:bbb

 

Ok..thnks for your answers...you said that the invester/money guy is entitled to a %..percentage of what the fighter earns(fighting) during the contract agreed upon?...what is the going % rate?...also when you bring a sparring partner(that doesnt train in same gym)..how much is fair amount to pay them?..(average)..THNX..really appreciate answers from someone with Alot of yrs./exprience in boxing bz...:bbb

 

Just saw the fight.. Casamayor vs. Robert Garcia..wow!..what a difference in earnings..Casamayor,$250k...vs. $50k for Garcia..does that seam fair demps? ..cus $50k...minus 10 % for trainer.(s)...minus 33% for manager..minus IRS.etc..theres not very much left..(thats just the way i see it.maybe im wrong).....what dictates how much each fighter is gonna get?.(aside from one being the champ and the other challenger)..how does the promoter come up with those numbers for each fighter?..thnx..(just had Alot of questions that i always wanted to get off my mind!)... :bbb

 

As far as money guys, they can ease the process of taking things to the next level.

For example, Roberto Duran got with a money man (Carlos Eleta) which led to him working with Ray Arcel and Freddie Brown, which of course took him from a good prospect to an all time great.

On the other hand, not having a money man can stall one's career. Saoul Mamby, who didn't have a money man, was still driving a cab and going nowhere. It took him years to really get his career headed upwards and when he finally did, he reached his full potential, holding the Jr. WW title for a few years. But it took him much longer, and much more work, than it would have if he'd have someone financing him.

But of course as Dempsey1234 said, if a money man starts dictating things, then it can go bad fast.

That's why Carlos Eleta was so good for Duran in the 70s...he brought it the experts and let them do things their way and didn't get delusional.

 

Got it..kool ,rope-a-dope..thnx :bbb

 

Exactly right thanks for your insight, I had a money guy from hell, cost my guy a year and a half. Finally brought in a guy who has bigger boxing credentials then I have. This coming year with my new co-mgr/money guy providing the "gas for the car", will be a breakout year for my fighter, cos we are on the same page. Again, RAD, thank you, direct and to the point.