Why did pacman look so feeble in jmm 3?

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  1. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Clear as day to me that Pacquiao's gameplan was to sit back and let a "past it" old fighter come to him.

    Freddie Roach thought he'd take away Marquez' counterpunch opportunities. He thought that if Pacquiao sat back and waited like Mayweather, Marquez would'nt have the quickness, speed, or legs to connect on Pacquiao.

    Roach did'nt factor one big thing.
    Pacquiao was'nt Mayweather, and Marquez' ring IQ was so much beyond Pacquiao's comprehension that a waiting game would only hurt his fighter.

    The result was Marquez probed while coming foward in the attempt to make Pacquiao counter, so what Marquez did was counter the counter. :lol:

    Everyone of the Marquez-Pacquiao fights is like watching a someone with string making a kitty cat chase it.
    The cat is at the mercy of the string boss, and everytime the boss was Marquez! :yep
     
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  3. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wife handed him divorce papers day before fight.
     
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  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :deal I remember Roach wanting Manny to box, which really was the right idea if you want to beat Marquez you have to outbox him, but it backfired on Pacquiao. Then went back to warring, but Marquez by this time was landing the cleaner, harder shots.
     
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  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    No, you dont outbox Marquez.

    I'll tell you that was Bradley did was play the safety first game.
    Jab and run. Thats what Bradley basically did, and even then I thought Marquez edged the fight by landing the cleaner and certainly consistently much harder shots.

    For someone Marquez' size to beat him, you have to run and play safe. Thats not outboxing.
     
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  6. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    There was a HUGE dufference in Manny between the 3rd and 4th fights

    In the 4th Manny fainted like crazy, drew Juan in many times, and smashed him with hard shots

    Youre saying Manny tried to apply the "counterpunch the counterpuncher" tactics in fight 3. All i saw there was a lost kitten without his ball of wool. He was CLUELESS.

    In the 4th, he was back on his drugs big time, and even when he was knoked down, his face showed "im gonna kill you"

    Night and day

    Pacman on roids is a monster for anyone, its no wonder Mayweather called his bluff
     
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  7. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Bradley did what he had to. He used his speed to pot shot the old master. I've no problem at all giving that win to Tim. If he'd stuck with those tactics against Pacquiao in their rematch, he'd have probably have won that too

    Marquez was shot WHEN he Obliterated Pacquiao. Any Marquez fights after that are irrelevent

    :hat
     
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  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :D:good
     
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  9. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess you didn't see the fight in "Slow mo":rofl Marquez got knocked out like 2 times :lol:
     
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  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont buy this "Pac was'nt on PED's" for fight 3.
    There was no reason for him not to do it any different without extra PED testing.

    Freddie Roach made a big mistake. He sent a student out to box a master and Pacquiao looked clueless simply because he could not connect the dots.
     
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  11. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    How come Manny changed Night and Day between fights 3 and 4?

    Suddenly he was once again Supermanny!

    Night and Day

    The difference had NOTHING to do with tactics
     
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  12. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I think we know the reason. :hey

    Let's just say that Manny was shake-deprived. :yep
     
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  13. BoxedOut

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    could be this. he just wasnt focused. i remember watching news the night before and the reporter was obviously quite "shaken" himself.
     
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  14. Big-Business

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    Well you do know floyds on them now...he did hire ALEX ARIZA!
     
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