Saúl Álvarez vs. James Kirkland

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    This is a way better match than Alvarez-Cotto.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yes but Kirkland vs. Rosado (as was supposed to happen a few months ago) would have been even better.
     
    IntentionalButt, Jan 21, 2015
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  3. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People always dismissing Kirkland .

    The man is a beast and remorseless with punching power in both hands .

    I will be rooting for Canelo , but for anyone to say this is an easy fight or a guaranteed W for Canelo is absurd .

    James has an unbelievable will to win .

    Intriguing Matchup .
     
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  4. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Good stuff. Guaranteed fireworks
     
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  5. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    My main concern is....

    Kirkland has fought what, once a year for the last three years? Maybe less?

    Hes a guy imo that relies on activity, getting in a groove, 'building upon the last camp' type guy (meaning he uses the shape he was in a few months earlier to help him get to a higher level the next camp)

    I think maybe James's time has come and gone, and I wouldn't expect to see the destroyer we know as Kirkland. Though he looked decent against Tapia :think

    Also, I believe this might be Canelos longest layoff in his career.... but he doesn't rely on the same set of attributes James does, attributes that imo benefit from activity.
     
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  6. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Much respect for this match-up.
     
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  7. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    This has the potential to blow up in Canelo's face, Kirkland if unaffected by Canelo's power and if he gets in his groove may end up stopping him, although I think Canelo wins, how much credit will he get if he does, because his detractors will just say he beat a glass jawed loser. This is very high risk low reward for Alvarez, but damn good fight nonetheless.
     
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  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Kirkland is not a beast. He is a mentally fragile Glass Jawed fighter. People tried to perpetuate him as some Mandingo destroyer then he was KOed by a feather fisted Japanese guy and even before that he had problems staying vertical in fights (and has since)

    Kirkland has dog in him. He is not a real Prizefighter.

    You are trying to make Kirkland out to be something he is not. Canelo will stop him early.
     
    Rico Spadafora, Jan 21, 2015
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yeah, probably not ideal conditions for Kirkland, but such is the nature of this kind of "now or never" opportunity.

    This is already his 2nd or 3rd chance (Kirkland pulled out in summer 2012 when scheduled to meet Canelo, and there were some talks last summer as well but they didn't progress very far) so he isn't really in a position to decline or ask for a tuneup. Canelo wants a decent consolation prize for May and right now Kirkland in San Antonio is looking good to him. The opportunity might not come again.
     
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  11. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good fight.
     
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  12. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What's this based on? I haven't seen much of Kirkland.
     
    Gneus7, Jan 21, 2015
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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  15. tdf1974

    tdf1974 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    great fight imo

    any news of undercard?
     
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