Heavyweight top ten looking something like this now?

No.

 

So show me these 'Trolls' I have posted in the Classic forum. They don't exist. And you will not threaten me on here. Period.

You are just upset that people are disagreeing with your rankings and absurd ranking of Steve Cunningham. That isn't my problem and everyone who disagrees with you is NOT trolling.

 

you are a little kid. I am not Trolling on here just because you don't agree with me. This is a message forum where people discuss opinions. You are NOT going to call me a 'troll' because you get your feelings hurt on here then threaten to ban me for something I haven't even done. Do you understand how pitiful you sound threatening to ban someone for 'Trolling' on a forum that I have posted on in the past and not made any 'trolling' posts? :rofl

Is this real life? Seriously? atsch

 

I did see that poll, actually, last night, and made comment on it "over there". (and voted Sasha, of course - as it seems have a couple other parties since then)

I chalk that up to mob rule. People love hype.

More people will tune in for a new Kardashians reality trainwreck premiere than for a UN summit, for instance. Nobody with half a brain would say the former is of more worth or substance. People, especially in groups, are just stupid and lazy. If they're fed "Wilder and Fury are unbeaten titans heading for a colossal showdown to wear THE GREEN BELT (once strapped around the waist of Ali!!!)" they're going to eat it up and believe the winner of that contest is The Man...and then will tune in readily to see that 'pretender' Klitschko taken care of (some bit of shock they'll be in for..)

Acknowledging that yes, Klitschko beat Povetkin already 119-104 x3 but that Povetkin is still the best challenge out there for him by leaps and bounds requires a bit too much nuanced thought for most of the rabble.

 

I think it's true that Povetkin is the best HW boxer on the planet not named Klitschko, but it's equally true that he got a drubbing that in earlier days, would have ruled out a rematch.

Ever.

The main reason such a rematch is a plausible event is that , after Povetkin, with the possible exception of the so-recently soundly whipped Pulev, there is a considerable gap to the level of the next guy.

Pov can reasonably expect another shot at the big title next year some time, if Wlad is still active.


In the meantime, the winner of Fury-Wilder bout would make the most interesting bout for Wlad if (when ?)he gets past Jennings.

These two have some similarities.

Both have very colourful, even charismatic personalities

Both are huge, even taller than Wlad.

Both started out as something of a near joke.
(I've been watching Fury since he dispatched some wild-eyed (non-Scottish) beast who entered the ring in a kilt.
And of course, the famous gif where Fury hit himself)

And Wilder deigned to give Charlie Z a touch of a hiding)

Both have surprised the pundits, especially the chin-checking crowd.

Both are undefeated.


Finally, not that it's uber-meaningful, the bout would bring about a WBA-WBC-WBO-IBF-TNBR-RING heavyweight champion, the first in a while !

 

So, alphabet soup and "personalities".

That's the argument for Wilder or Fury ahead of Povetkin?

Meh. :conf

 

I'd give him flack taking on Wilder or Fury, WBC belt or no, because I fully expect both would receive worse hidings than did Pulev, let alone Povetkin.

 

All true, and that's how it usually works, acknowledged - but come on, man. You don't reckon Fury or Wilder last more than 4-5 rounds with Povetkin, eh? Just different classes altogether. Different planets.

...and then you have Wlad off in his own galaxy. (even with some grey in the mane)

An especially ****ed up division.

 

Fair enough. Agree to disagree. :conf

To me, both of them are just barely above the Esch & Kimbo Slice tier of ludicrousness, whereas Povetkin, in stark contrast (even with all his faults) is somebody that would contend in any era.