Is Al Haymon misleading his own fighters?

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  1. Constable

    Constable Boxing Junkie banned

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    Read this article berto goes into detail and spells out exactly what Al Haymon is telling his fighters about NBC, Spike TV got me thinking how al haymon really gets into these fighters heads.

    “Al has told us, ‘You guys are going to be in 100 million homes, you guys perform like you’ve been performing, and we’re going to capture a whole new audience,’ ” Berto said. “It’s going to take us to a whole different level, turn us into household names.

    “This is why guys like Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler and Roberto Duran became so big. They were on free television all the time.”

    one problem berto you bum those guys were ATG level fighters does not matter if you have 500 million watching you if you are not at the level no one will care

    Haymon is fooling his fighters and making them believe in something which will not happen his master plan will fail

    there is no easy way to the top you have to earn it the hard way

    here is the full link [url]http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-boxing-haymon-josesito-lopez-andre-berto-20150123-story.html[/url]
     
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  2. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    I agree, he is great at promising them that the sky is the limit and that they will be paid million dollar paydays to fight less risk opponents.

    I know there are a lot of younger cats here, but the reason boxing left network TV in the first place was because ad revenue could not cover promotional costs and ever increasing fighter purses. It was the reason PPV was invented, to satisfy the mega paydays the top fighters were demanding.
     
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  3. Constable

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    I mean he has berto believing he can be a ppv star :lol:

    these fighters should snap out of this fantasy land and get to the top the hard way
     
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  4. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    They should, but the problem is they signed their soul over to Haymon. The contract is not set for a specific number of fights and all contracts must be approved by Haymon.

    On second thought, with Haymon just being an "adviser", what power would his contracts really wield? He is not a promoter, he is not an official manager, he is just an add-on to a fighters team. :huh With this in mind, could a fighter just rip up the contract and let their real manager handle negotiations like they are supposed too?
     
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  5. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    You need help
     
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  6. Constable

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    Haymon has really got them under his thumb

    i think the term adviser in his case is rather vague i think he goes by the adviser because he can get some more cash if he was a official manager certain goodies wouldn't be available to him anway whatever it is i find it shady
     
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  7. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    Please, help.
     
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  8. jim jim

    jim jim Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah he is definetly there only a few he can be looking out for, everyones is just buying into the myth. Paulie for example got one fight against a fighter who was a terribel style for him and thats being it even though hes been beggin for a fight recently theres plenty of others who have just been at nothing
     
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  9. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    Yeah, Paulie hasn't done anything since losing to Broner. A lot of good that Haymon signing has done him.
     
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  10. IsaL

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    Unfortuantely a lot of the fighters are dumb as hell.

    For example, the #1 P4P King can barely even read, and the other P4P king only went to school until the age of 6 or 7.
     
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  11. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol, I bet if arum was doing this with tr fighters you would be singing a whole different tune.

    Point is, good fights are being put out for free, many boxing enthusiasts blame closed circuit TV for the decrease in boxing views. Now you are complaining? Go jack off to a Manny poster duck_master
     
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  12. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    umm, isn't he retired?:huh
     
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  13. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    Is he? What was the point in signing with Haymon then?
     
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  14. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Got a few big fights.

    Nice little retirement package
     
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  15. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The idea isn't that they are going to make those mega purses for fighting on NBC, it's that the exposure they get on NBC will translate to more fans who will be willing to pay to see them in the biggest fights on PPV.

    Whatever the actual numbers, that's pretty sound economics. Leonard and Duran and Hagler, etc., did fight on free network TV on the way to becoming PPV stars.
     
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