Larry Holmes: Klitschko has no jab, no heart and would be beaten by Wilder or Stivern

I saw a Haye box circles around Wilder. Haye went to the press says he beat up Wilder in sparring. Wilder had nothing to say about it. What does that tell you :deal

 

You saw a 5 second clip put together to make look Haye look good. Were you there? Where did you watch this footage?

Wilder was helping his friend prepare and build the fight , nothing more. He's not trying to put him away with a huge PPV bout around the corner.

If Haye can destroy Wilder easy , why does he not go take his WBC from him?

 

If you actually understood boxing and watched the fight, you would know that this is not what happened. Pulev tried to go at Klitschko and rough him up, but he got knocked down twice within the first 2 minutes for his trouble. Whenever he had his legs under him he repeatedly tried to follow this strategy but he was rocked again and again until the eventual KO. He did more or less neutralize Klitschko's jab, but got caught with left hooks coming in and leaping left hooks once he slowed down.

 

I rly think that Pulev will beat Fury and probably win by UD.
And guess what Fury dodge Pulev, and if he fight and beat him he was becoming back there mandatory for Klitschko IBF. But he didnt want anything with Pulev and decide to go with a smaller guy.
Pulev was the top dog back there and Haye, Fury and couple of other guys dodged him, while he say he will fight anybody and dosnt care who.
If Fury is so good, why he took victim of the victim of Klitschko ? Hammer was KO by Wach, why he not took on Wach ?
Some people talk how Wach was slow, but he aint that slow and no one want to have anything with him. Wach right hand is fast enough and will probably KO both Wilder and Fury.
A lot of people dont want part of him, cause he is huge, and eat punches for breakfast, but he not only eat, he punch as well and have no fear and cant be hurt.
I want to see Wilder or Fury takes on that one or Pulev.

 

How can you have Foreman @ #2? He only defended the title twice.

Where's Joe Louis?

Frazier is 32-4.

One of the worst top 5s I've seen recently.

 

Not even close.

What makes Larry better than Wlad?

 

I know exactly what happened in that fight. Wlad couldn't out box a heavy bag. He could only look for the knock out.

Inbetween he lunged at Pulev like Superman. I can't count how many time's he went in with double handed fist pump. A casual fan next to me was wondering what the hell he was doing.

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Manny Pacman did that accidentally against Clottley and the ref called time out and told him not to do it again.
Why can Wlad do these things over and over and nobody says anything to him?

Also , just before Pulev got KO'd , he stunned Wlad with a left hook but couldn't follow up because the ref jumped in to save Wlad:rofl:tired

And Pulev doesn't even carry poweratsch .

 

Skills. Chin. Heart. Stamina. Work rate. Punch variety. Jab. Movement. Opposition. Entertainment value. .....

 

Good news is we fans and Holmes will find out as a Klitschko-Wilder/Stiverne fight will happen by the end of 2015. It will be History the first Heavyweight collect all the trinket belts + Ring Magazine belt.

 

Dinobot once again shows us he know nothing about boxing and say black is white.
You must be the only one who see how Klitschko is stun and how referee not allow Pulev to continue, when both was in the clinch for 4sec and Pulev once again hit Klitschko on the back on the head.
Klitschko wasnt hurt in any situation, except the first round, when was going forward and was caught by Pulev jab. And still there was nothing wrong.

You f**** moron never answer to the statistic i post million times, how exactly Klitschko could not outbox someone, when he won every round and score total 4 knockdowns and outbox Pulev in every f**** aspect?
I rly want answer from you whine ****.
Total Punches was 38-25 in favor of Klitschko. Klitschko pct. was 43%, while Pulev was 23% succes in his shots.
Jabs was 21-10 for Klitscho, pct. 40% for Klitschko, only 16% for Pulev. Power punches 17-15 for Klitschko, 47% for Klitschko, 33% for Pulev.
And what exactly is the problem with the pic you post? Is there a rule that Klitschko shot not put his right hand there? Also the pic you post i*** prove you 100% wrong, cause Pulev is in the same pose, exactly the same. So once again you was KTFO !!!!

 

IMHO, There's many HW's of the past, who could beat today's top 20 guys.

Why on earth couldn't Larry Holmes have beaten Wlad?

Michael Spinks was a very good fighter, and he was an established HW when he fought Holmes. Also, he wasn't some pumped up LHW. His natural walking around weight was between 185-190, so he wasn't a small guy. His fights with Holmes were close and controversial.

Yes, Tyson blew him out in a round. But many people, even members of his camp, said he froze that night. Mike intimidated him, and broke him mentally.

As for Tyson vs Holmes, Larry wasn't shot, but he was past his best, and he'd been inactive. He hadn't fought for almost two years. He was also facing Mike who was at his best at that point.

None of the above, tells me that Larry couldn't have beaten Wlad.

The fairest thing to do, is to ask who would have won, while both guys were at their best.

Every fighter has different circumstances, and some guys age better than others.

Larry was knocked out by Mike at the age that Wlad is now.

Whereas Wlad looks as though he's pretty much unbeatable at the moment.

But I'd say that the version of Mike that Larry fought in 88, would have a damn good shot at knocking out the Wlad of today.

Again, if we look at Holmes at his peak, and match him up with any version of Wlad that you choose, then I think Larry definitely could have beaten him.

It's easy for you to say that Wlad is currently just dominating.

But who's he fighting?

 

If Clinchko only throws and lands one punch , thats a 100% connect rateatsch

 

And who Holmes was beat? Guys who are with 40-50 LBS lighter then now HWS and are simply replaced by better, technicals, speed, height, reach, weight, defence, tactical guys.
How you decide that someone is good ?
How exactly you decide that someone is good? You looking at what exaclty?
Cause there is not much HW like Povetkin, and Povetkin is 1.88, and people say this is a small guy in nowdays. That is the big change in the HW.
Tyson was 1,78 with reach of 180cm, Klitschko reach is 206, and Povetkin reach is 1,91cm ....
Not to mention Tyson is with 30pounds lighter then Wlad.
Spinks wont be in the HW nowdays, you probably understand that, and Tyson KTFO in 1 round ... And Spinks is the guy who beat Holmes 2 times in a row.
You can have your opinion, and i have no problem with it, but in my book Klitschko is just better in every aspect then Holmes and will beat him fair and square.
You can disagree, but thats my point of view.
And BTW who exactly tell Holmes to fight after his "prime" its fun when some people lose, and all guys starting to cry with that prime and how they are not in their prime, but exactly is guilty that this guy not quit, but continue fight?
He decide to fight, he lose and lose, and lose and he end in 69-6.
If Klitschko lose now, its his problem, not anyone and this is just a f**** excuse for a lose. When you see you cant do it anymore, you stop, if you lose its your problem.

 

Again your making yourself look stupid.
For a thousand times i prove you wrong with arguments and facts, and how you defend your statement ?
You blind or what, Klitschko is infront on every f**** available statistic, and he beat Pulev to all punch, so its better to stfu, when your owned times after times.
Also you was the one who was saying how tough Pulev is, how good movement he have, how faster then Klitschko he is, how Klitschko cant take Pulev punch and how every 250 pounds fighter can KO other and that Klitschko cant KO Pulev, cause Pulev have very good chin. How Wlad cant slip a jab and Pulev will land and land and land, before eventually KO Klitschko ...

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, you are always wrong.

 

If Holmes had entertainment value:

- Why was he labelled the 'most unappreciated US heavyweight champion ever' by Sports Illustrated?
- Why were none of his fights shown in continental Europe, unlike Frazier, Ali or Tyson?
- Why did Holmes never achieve any sort of mainstream popularity in the US, Europe or anywhere else in the world?