Where does Lennox Lewis rank among the best heavyweights of all time

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  1. BOMB SQUAD

    BOMB SQUAD Active Member Full Member

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    I had to quote this before you realized your mistake. I guess you weren't around then or didn't even bother to check boxrec. Now who's the Moron? log off son. you can no longer pretend to be credible.
     
  2. HerolGee

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    no no, lewis was faded and s****py for a few rounds, making it a messy victory in my opinion and ALSO interestingly in your words too, though you don't seem keen to say that again now.

    I really don't think vitali who gets beat by MW, is better than the undisputed multiweight ATG that is holyman, if that's your stance.


    the rahman victory (the guy the Ks never fougth whilst he was prime) was far more of a superb victory for lewis, he was punch perfect that night.
     
  3. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Definitely top 5
    Likely top 3
    Arguably # 1, Which is where I put him :)
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Inarguably between 3 and 15.

    I have him in the top 5 personally.
     
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    He didn't face Bowe because Bowe ducked out of a agreement to fight him. Holy ****, how the hell is that Lewis' fault. Bowe threw the WBC belt in the garbage and in doing so, permanently screwed his legacy. And that somehow Lewis' fault. Give me a break with this bs.
     
  6. BOMB SQUAD

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    Really man? You now want to make Rahman a better victory? Lewis was punch perfect because he knew he'd better be or risk being starched by Rahman again! You seem to be implying that the Ks ducked Rahman. Are you?
     
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    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What are you talking about? Lewis fought Golota in 1997 and Golota fought Grant in 1999.
     
  9. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Top 5 H2H.

    I don't believe there is a such thing as an honest to goodness, #1 overall H2H heavyweight because at that level, nobody's unbeatable.

    In Lennox's case, the devil's advocate argument is this: we don't know how he matches up with certain styles only because of the relatively few number of fights he had. Granted, the orthodox slugger was the most prevalent style, and we know Lennox generally excelled against that, but I wish he'd have squeezed a couple fights in against southpaws, spoilers, or defensive minded fighters/counterpunchers just to round it out a bit more.

    Still, I rate Lennox at his best quite highly.
     
  10. rayrobinson

    rayrobinson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ahhh,

    Want to say higher , but a prime Lennox was being outboxed by Bruno until a great left hook turned it around.

    Beat and old Tyson and Holyfield.

    Behind against V.

    Top 10 at best , and did have stamina problems , any fights that went past 6 - 8 and he looked really tired.
     
  11. BOMB SQUAD

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    Are you dense?

    I stated that Grant had already been exposed by Golota. That means that Grant fought Golota and had his glass jaw exposed. Grant then went on to have his glass jaw exposed by Lewis. Golota was the first to expose Grant. You follow?

    What would Lewis fighting Golota before Lewis fighting Grant have to do with anything concerning Grant being a hype job?

    If you still are having problems following, maybe I can draw you pictures or something. Moron.
     
  12. HerolGee

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    it was therefore ergo by your own admission an excellent performance. QED.


    only you used the word duck there. Why? I said they didn't fight him, implying (in my eyes) that its not easy to compare rahman and K bros without a near prime fight to refer to.
    Why you so worried that you had to bring the word "duck" up?
     
  13. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Other HW's resume's could probably be picked apart in a similar way.
     
  14. BOMB SQUAD

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    Floyd vs Gatti was an excellent performance too, but you wouldn't use that performance as justification for Floyd's ATG ranking. You also wouldn't use Lewis over Rahman 2 as justification for Lewis' ATG rankings, even though it was also a great performance.

    I'm not worried at all. I was asking for clarification when you said that neither Kb fought Rahman. So, by trying to make the comparison, are you saying that Rahman could have been better than Vits, but we'll never know, and therefore a better win for Lewis?
     
  15. DowngoesFraizya

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    Top 5. I’d personally put him at #1 since I don’t think Ali would have been able to top him. Foreman had trouble with good jabbers and showed zero interest in fighting Lewis in his 2nd career. ANY and ALL fighters could be had on any given day but Lewis was pretty damn dominant at his best. This is subjective but no way can you take Lewis out of the top 10.

    Lewis
    Ali
    Foreman
    Vitily
    Holy
    Liston
    Louis
    Tyson
    Wlad
    Fraizya