Deontay Wilder vs the Heavyweight greats (and not so greats)

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  1. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, I know its far too soon to even consider matching Wilder against the great heavyweights of the past based mainly on his one title winning performance. Its possible he might not even make it to the end of the year as a champion depending on who he meets in the following months but what the hell... lets do it anyway.

    As of now, if Wilder was matched against the Heavyweight champs of the past, both the ones considered ATG's and not so greats, who would you say he would definitely have more than a chance of beating?
     
    Ken Ashcroft, Jan 25, 2015
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    At this stage we would have to make the strongest possible assumption, that he would lose to all of them.
     
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  3. impacted

    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder seems a lovely guy, he can legitimately punch pretty hard, and he's a calamitous one punch KO loss waiting to happen. Matching him up with greats of the past is like pitting Jorge Luis Gonzalez or Micheal Grant against the legends of days gone by. Pointless.
     
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  4. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    those right hands against stiverne seem to be getting undersold in general, stiverne had a good chin but those shots were a huge part of stivernes poor effort imo.

    he'd beat jim corbett, maybe primo too.
     
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  5. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    For now Wladimir Klitchko is still the Heavyweight champion, so if and when, Wilder beats him, ( A VERY BIG IF )- then we'll talk about Wilders status among previous champs...
     
    SILVER SKULL 66, Jan 25, 2015
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  6. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    do champions only ever fight other champions?

    would no fighter without a belt have a chance vs someone who did hold one?

    why even have title fights? the other guy isn't even a champion, no point discussing any tiltle fight ever because the champion always wins by default.
     
    kingfisher3, Jan 25, 2015
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  7. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'd probably take out Patterson
     
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  8. LittleRed

    LittleRed Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At this stage we should make the strongest possible assumption, that he would beat all of them.
     
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  9. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    For what ever reason I am seeing Wilder vs the Foreman who fought Holyfield in my head now thanks to this thread. And now I'm intrigued, does the old man bomb out Deontay or does Wilder use his younger legs and great reflexes and athleticism to out point the big man??? Hmmmm
     
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  10. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^ Foreman Knocks him out.
     
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  11. mcvey

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    prem at ure
     
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  12. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wilder is a good fighter, but for me, it's too early to tell.He didn't even take out Zelenoff properly.
     
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He'd beat Tommy Burns. Forty pound weight advantage, one foot height advantage, 9" reach advantage. Wilder proved he's not re****ed the other week and I think you'd have to be re****ed in order to let size advantage like that go.
     
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  14. McGrain

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    Burns is pretty good IMO, but Qawi was good too, so I don't think it's outrageous, no.
     
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  15. mr. magoo

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    He doesn't have the proven background to favor him against bonafide great heavyweights. But I do think that he has a claim to being as good or better than many of the opponents that a lot of greats faced. With an olympic pedigree, a 33-0 record, track record of keeping busy, standing 6'7" 225 lbs, with proven power and wins over Stiverne and Scott he's gotta be given fair ods against a lot of past title challengers. Gerry ****ey for example was one of Larry Holmes' best wins and I'm not sure that I'd favor ****ey too heavily over wilder if even at all.
     
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