Shelly Finkel: Wilder a work in progress. No need to rush him against Klitschko!

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  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Shelly Finkel was very instrumental in Tyson's success ..Give the man time if they'd keep him busy he will eventually see Wlad..
     
  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I was worried we would see a title defense in Alabama against a Manuel Charr type opponent. Looks like that is what we will get :patsch

    They better be careful as Wilder could slip up and lose before a Wlad or Povetkin type big money fight can happen. It is a slippery slope doing business like that.
     
  3. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The double sta.dards on here are cracking me up. You guys want Wilder to just go right to Wlad even though he had a ver short amateur career and just stepped up as a pro. Why is no one maki.g the comparison to the man the want him to fight? Well lets see.....Wlad was an Olympic gold medalist with tons of amateur experience. He already had 36 fights by the time he was preparing for his first paper (WBO) defense. Be than had his first five defenses before losing to Sanders (who never before or after beat a top 10 fighter) against Derrick Jefferson, Charles Shufford, Frans Botha, Ray Mercer and Jameel McCline. None were top ten rated except McCline in his fifth defense before getting steam rolled by Sanders. Why is that ok for Wlad, but if Wilder doesnt go directly to him hes a "ducker"? Seems to many many people here have an agenda and bias that says its ok for one fighter to take easy fights instead of going right after the true champion, but not another. Tsk, tsk, tsk! :nono
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Do you or do you not want ONE unified champion? We have waited long enough as it is. Now, since Jennings who is Wilder's mandatory fight is fighting Wlad he will lose his mandatory status with the WBC and that will allow Wilder one optional defense until we see if Povetkin/Perez which has been ordered happens.

    Wilder needs to fight Wlad by the end of the year. I don't have an issue with him taking an optional fight first. Like I said Team Wilder better be careful because they might slip up and have Wilder lose before he can get a big money fight with Wlad.
     
  5. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    You're so predictable...yes if you're a champ you should go against other champs and try to unify, it strengthens the value of the belts, image of the sport and you lead by example. If Wilder wants easy fights he should have forfeited his mando with Stiverne.

    Let's see him fight Wlad, Fury, Povetkin, Pulev, Perez, Jennings etc.
     
  6. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I couldnt care less about the unification of any paper championship. There is only ONE heavyweight champion, and it isnt Wilder. But why have avoided my point? Why was it ok for Wlad to not try and unify in his first SIX defenses as a paper champ, but Wilder is expected to now even though he doesnt have nearly the experience? Dont duck the question.
     
  7. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again, more ducking of the point I made. Why was it ok for Wlad to take on anything less than the champion in his first 6 paper title defenses, but a much less experienced fighter should have to? Lmao....you bozo's and your double standards...talk about predictable!! :lol:
     
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    So we as fans should just let Wilder fight a bunch of fights and act like Wlaqd doesn't even exist? The division is supposed to be **** poor right now right? So if it is so bad why does Wilder need all this time? You don't even make any sense. Wlad was the WBO champion which people on here still say "doesn't count" not sure the leverage he had with that belt back in 2000. You aren't comparing apples to apples here. Lennox hadn't even fought Tua or Rahman yet (much bigger fights) either but you expect him to fight Wlad who wasn't really known and had the WBO belt? :huh
     
  9. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Deontay Quack Quack Wilder.
     
  10. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Based on the sparring stories between wlad and wilder, wilder will not want to step on the ring with dr steel hammer for real.
     
  11. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    :lol::lol: Good point Rico, if the division is SO bad and weak why does Wilder need tune up fights and more development?

    If you're not ready to be the champ do the right thing and relinquish the belt, have all the easy fights you want without it.
     
  12. Stallion

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    Well, Wladimir didn't go around shouting "I'm the heavyweight champion of the world", "I brought the heavyweight glory to Europe" etc like Wilder is currently doing.

    And when they mention Klitschko, Wilder's team goes on about Wilder being a college prospect. When Povetkin is brought up, they are already mentioning $10mil.
     
  13. TheDarkLord

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    I can see his point in that Wilder does need some more tests before Vlad, but ffs they should have been doing that 10 fights ago!
     
  14. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Youre still ducking the question. You want unification now, but when a much more experiened fighter who held a meaningless paper title and fought six fighters who werent even ranked you think it was ok. Your bias is blinding you. As stated, there is only ONE world champion. You say things like "Wlad wasnt really known", I can tell you for a fact he was more well known than Wilder is now. None of that changes the fact that youre trying to play both sides of the fence on this padticular point. :-(
     
  15. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How does any of that change my point? :huh