Do you think a dominant champ often removes them from being able to beat a HOFer?

Wach, Pianeta, Barrett, and Brock underrated? What?

You do know that being undefeated doesn't mean **** if all you've beaten are bums, right?

So tell us, what were these guys' best wins before facing Wlad?

And using statistics to prove how great Wlad is, HWBlog-style? I expect better from you. :-(

 

Absolutely. When one fighter is so dominant, it makes the rest of the division look weaker than it really is.

Let's put it this way: if Ali was never exiled and shut out Frazier instead of losing a war, and there was no trilogy, the entire decade looks significantly weaker.

The exile gave the rest of the division time to produce a natural rival.

A conveniently timed upset can make the whole division than it is.

Without that, nobody has the chance to really generate enough career momentum to be taken as seriously as in the eras with more parity.

 

another attempt by failey to excuse joe calzgahe for fighting bums for 10 years.

 

I think Byrd, Peter, and Haye were his best wins. Byrd after the Golota fight was past his prime by 2004, perfect timing for Peter to take over as his was in his prime at that time. As for Peter, his decline to me was in the Chambers fight, around 2008, ripe for the picking for David Haye. He still had power, but his timing was way, way off. As for Haye, I think he'd struggle abit with Wilder, Stiverne, Povetkin, Arreola, Fury, and Helenius, but he'd beat them all. The only question mark I have is Jennings, who has good defense for a heavyweight and tho not as flashy or explosive as Haye, he knows how box well and brawl well too. So no, I don't think there'd be a dominant champ if Wlad wasn't around. Every 3-4 yrs it'd change hands, if not more.

 

I guess this argument does make sense

When Tyson was dominant 86-90

Holyfield, Bowe would have been in the hw division
Lewis came through around that time


But it was still seen as a weak era

No doubt though that Lennox Lewis was the real dominant champ of the generation

 

It depends on what the opponents go on to do afterwards.

Let's see what Fury, Wilder, Pulev, Povetkin, and Jennings go on to do after Wlad fights them.

 

I get what you're getting at but I think that Wlad's comp is rightfully disparaged.

Even though people are hyping Wilder right now, I don't think most of the people doing the hyping really think he can beat Wlad.

Same goes for all the hyped so called threats hes faced. Its just wishful thinking that someone finally dethrones the dominant champ.

There were a few that thought that Pulev would beat Wlad but I think most people knew better. Just because a few people thought that Pulev was a threat doesn't actually make him the favorite by the bookies or an actual credible threat to Wlad.

Wlad hasn't beat many people he was supposed to lose to.

 

I disagree. If you're hall of fame material, then you'll pick yourself up and then dominate everyone else you face and get another shot.

Tony Thompson did this to a certain extent but do you really think Thompson is HOF worthy? I certainly don't

As far as Bute is concerned, I really don't think he was all that great.

He had decent skills but had weak heart. And heart is just as much a part of your abilities as anything else.