The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    size will not be a factor guys, Manny beat up Cotto, Margarito, De L Hoya and Mosely... all as big or bigger than Mayweather. Bradley is probably as big as may weather too
     
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    acr347 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree and it is an advantage, but it's not the sole reason he's at a disadvantage, in this fight it woulve been better if manny was a bit bigger, but they are both used to fighting at ww.

    Just repeating what I think we both agree on.

    Gonna be a competitive fight though... I think.
     
  3. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I wouldn't even be surprised if Pac won.
     
  4. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    5'6 is most likely a rounded figure but Mayweather clearly isn't anymore than 5'7. You can see that when he's facing off with a 5'7 guy like Maidana and 5'8 guys like Guerrero and Ortiz.

    Guy is every bit the pathetic manlet that Pacquiao is. :lol:
     
  5. schooling

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    Floyd will school Manny it will be Mayweather vs Marquez all over again trust me.
     
  6. schooling

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    Don't get me wrong its a combination of the size advantage and the skills mayweather will be to big and skilful for Pac I just don't why people think it will be competitive.
     
  7. drenlou

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    Floyd fights more flat footed then ever now days,and alot of people think it's because he's getting older, and i tend to agree with that. But Manny brings something different to the equation, and that's speed, power and angles, not to mention he's a southpaw. Floyd has shown to be vunerable to fighters who throw straight shots, and looping shots.

    Floyd will win hands down, but i think it will be a competitive fight also.
     
  8. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That makes no sense at all, two counter punchers who didn't engage but size makes the difference? The difference between two counter punchers is clearly skill timing and speed.. nothing to do with size :S
     
  9. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Size will play no part in this fight because floyd doesn't use his size. The only thing that may affect things is height, some guys like fighting tall guys some like to fight smaller guys (where the punches are coming from). But in saying that and seein the pictures there really isn't any major difference in height and size for me and as stated mannys legs/calfs are alot thicker than floyds and add to his weight that you don't see on his upper body. Floyds probably about 5lbs heavier than manny.
     
  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    I'd suspect the same, or expect I should say.
     
  11. drenlou

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    Jmm cant close the distance, . As he fights off the back foot waiting to counter you. If you choose to wait against a fighter like floyd then yeah the size is going to matter, because floyd will keep you at arms length, and get in and get out. Which is what happened in the jmm fight. He had to reset after floyd attacked him

    Pacquaio takes more risks and chances and closes the gap pretty quick on you, so if he comes at floyd with that foot and hand speed, then that pretty much nullifies floyds size advantage. Why was mike tyson so effective? Because he would close the gap on you very quickly. You know what i mean? It's the same deal with Pacquaio imo.
     
  12. Typhoon

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    Floyd and Marquez are different fighters. Marquez has like 40 KO's so he has much more punching power. To me, Mayweather is much more like Bradley than Marquez. Marquez is a counter-puncher KO artist whilst Bradley and Mayweather are counter-puncher defensive artists that look to win on points and don't have much punching power. I see JMM and FM are too very different opponents for Manny.

    Manny was winning the fight vs JMM but made a mistake and got KO'd by a big puncher. Had JMM not KO'd him, Manny would've either KO'd him or won on points. Here's the problem for Mayweather - can he out punch, out-quick Pacquiao? It won't be easy... if he can KO Pac, then great but he isn't a puncher like Marquez.

    This is a complicated fight for Money. Pacquiao is as FAST, throws a lot more punches and has a higher KO % than mayweather. I see this as a very difficult match-up for Floyd. Floyd has done well vs slower fighters like Maidana and Cotto but Pac is very different. Look at how slow Cotto looked vs Pacman when they fought...
     
  13. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well ok I do agree, When speaking on size I take that as weight, but i do agree i don't think floyds reach advantage against manny will be that big of a deal
     
  14. Typhoon

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    Floyd won't KO Manny, he doesn't have the punching power of JMM. Floyd can't outspeed or outwork Manny either. It will be a chess game of who is more accurate. Manny will throw many more punches and be less accurate but be on the offensive. Floyd will look to counter and probably be more accurate but throw less. I don't see either KO'ing the other and neither having a speed advantage so it's a much more complicated fight than some think. Pac's speed and punch output will be a big challenge...
     
  15. drenlou

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    I think the weight thing is irrelevent because pac and floyd has been fighting in the same weightclass now for almost 6 years. When someone says "towers" over pacquaio i tend to think that poster is referring to the height differential of 1.5 inches, which isn't much at all. Imo, theyre are pretty much the same size.
     
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