watching leonard-duran I right now

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  1. Pimp C

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    Very interesting.
     
  2. The Masked Man

    The Masked Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hate to say it because we hardly ever agree on anything, but I partially agree with you. You do need a break in between hard fights every so often, and Duran was slobbing quite a bit at the dinner table. Coming from poverty as a child, his weakness was food. My dad who used to train with him when he fought in the early 70's said he liked to pig out after matches for weeks. One time he was at the gym training and he brought a six pack of coke. Not beer, coke. I always thought that was quite funny
     
  3. Drew101

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    The first round was uneventful, Van, and could have gone either way.

    Duran hurt Leonard badly in the second and took over for a bit after that. But Leonard fought back well in the middle rounds and took his share from the . The rounds that Duran banked over the tirst half proved critical in determining the outcome, because they provided the buffer on the cards that, imo, Leonard couldn't quite overcome when he came on in the championship rounds.

    Still, there were a few swing rounds, and I thought Leonard won the last three pretty clearly. Given that he was hardly shut out over the first twelve , I think it's entirely reasonable to come up with a pretty narrow margin on the scorecard.
     
  4. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    maybe you haven't seen the fight in a while....it wasn't that one-sided. leonard won the first round. duran won the second, third and fourth...then leonard came back and c learly won the 5th and 6th. by the end of round six it was an even fight. from there oh it's an even fight until srl pulls away in the last two rounds.
     
  5. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I saw it that way too...
     
  6. The Masked Man

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    The fight was clearly competitive. But it's because of that, that it's still such a big fight. A young natural gifted ww fighting a slightly older gifted lw coming up in weight. I had it 8-6 with 1 round even for Duran
     
  7. cereal monotony

    cereal monotony Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Now as far as srl and fmj, there's no comparison between the two. floyd is a defensive master....srl was also a stylist but much more aggressive.

    After watching the fight, I would say this: fmj in his prime beats both duran and leonard with relative ease... well, that version of leonard at least. no flat-footed guy is gonna give floyd much trouble.
     
  8. Vanboxingfan

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    Interesting theory that might have some truth. Although when you read Duran's bio this doesn't come across. But interesting enough one of SRL's advisors quite over his decision to give Duran an immediate rematch as he wanted a tune up fight first. I believe I had the fight 9-6 for Duran but 8-6-1 is pretty much the same.
     
  9. The Masked Man

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    Damn it you blew it
     
  10. Vanboxingfan

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    I can live with that answer. It was a close competitive fight :good
     
  11. cereal monotony

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    leonard won the gold medal as a 20 year old jww...so, it's not like he's that naturally bigger than duran. they're about the same size. There was 5 years difference between them...but leonard was certainly not as experienced as duran at this point. leonard hadn't hit his prime yet...duran was not a lw anymore. he was campaigning at ww because that was the weight class he belonged in at that stage of his career.
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    Regarding the Fab 4:


    Duran born in 1951 turned pro in 1968 as a Bantamweight.


    Hagler born in 1954, turned pro in 1973 as a Middleweight.


    Leonard born in 1956, turned pro in 1977 as a Welterweight.


    Hearns was born in 1958, turned pro in 1977 as a Lightweight.


    Duran is 3-7 years older than his peers and spotted them 4-8 weight divisions.


    Duran was 30 when he went 1-1 against a 25 year old Leonard at Welterweight.


    Duran was 32 when he lost a close decision to a 29 year old Hagler at Middleweight.


    Duran was a day shy of 34 when he was knocked out by a 27 year old Hearns at Super Welter.




    If you weren't an insecure racist intimidated by Duran's all time great legendary status, you would understand why Duran didn't need to have a winning record against these men to earn respect.
     
  13. The Masked Man

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    You're well assessed argument will fall on fodder plugged ears.
     
  14. Drew101

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    Yeah I think both SRL and Duran from Montreal are a bridge too far for Floyd, though I think he can hang for a while with both of 'em.
     
  15. Vanboxingfan

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    Just out of curiosity what's Ali's record against Spinks, Berbick and Holmes? Do you think he's the worst of the four?