I am a boxing manager: if you have questions about the boxing biz, ask!

Thanks for not writing in Caps.

Well I'm glad then that it was your two guys.

And no, he is not the only one.

I dealt with Harry Spitzer personally, by telephone, setting up a bout for myself on one of his cards in Montreal. I covered all of the bases and got myself 100% more for the bout than we started out talking about. Spitzer had some honor. As I look back most that I dealt with did as well, I was overstated in my original comment of snakes. They give a few extra bucks for putting on a fan friendly fight and such with a 'dat a boy'. But still, if you send your boy in to deal with the promoter his guard should definitely be up. You can sugar coat whatever you want to, you know that there are many out there who will take you for a ride and drop you off flat broke if they are able to. Look no further than Don King, then just follow it down the line to the club shows.

One of the first things that I was taught once turning pro was to trust nobody but those that you have put in place around yourself, I lived those words during my time in. I had great representation and never had to worry about much.

You go on and place the promoters on a pedestal next to some angels, I know better than to do that.

 

"setting up a bout for myself on one of his cards in Montreal"


So you had no management team? You are bashing managers even tho you did your own management? Im lost now

 

I had a world class 'management team', just not at that time.

 

The easiest thing is to generalize East Side...lets give credit to some that are honest..and can help you bring in the big bks ...there are bad apples everywhere..just gotta get them out of yr way..but that attitude of generalizing might hurt an up and comming fighter if he has a good trner/promoter..that wants a fair deal on both sides..cus allready his mind is made up that they just want to screw him.....:bbb

 

good way to look at it

 

The promoters job is to profit, pure and simple. There are indeed some good 'apples' out there.... best of luck in finding them and then acquiring their services.

A promoter looks out for his own and a fighter does the same.

General rule - The promoter will do what's right for himself, not the fighter.

If you send a young fighter in to deal with a promoter I hope that you would send him in with the idea that this guy could try to screw you rather than making the young fighter feel like he's just going in for a spot of tea, a sandwich or two and some nice conversation.

What Bizarro kinda boxing world do you guys play in?

 

Spitzer was an honorable man.

Here's a quote that I got from a former Warrin fighter today, "once you sign you a slave.......".



You can continue teaching your trust in promoters, smh.

I'm finished here.

 

that was your point?
I would never debate that, it's a no brainer.
so anyway how does your point build upon your assumption that promoters are angels?

 

east side you understand capitalism right? If you are the buyer(promoter) you want the best deal you can get for you and same goes for the seller(fighter)...


simple economics

 

Well said jasper...and its up to you..(any fighter out there) if yr ignorant..or dont have experience in boxing business..there are SHARKS out there!..but do your homework!..or partner with a guy with .experience..to me its very simple...i wont sign ANYTHING..that i dont completly understand..i dont get it East Side...Question-,whose falt was it ...(& why?.)that you got screwed?..dont get me wrong..im just curious....:bbb

 

seeing as you guys know so much please answer me this question.......

What do you do when you are offered an obviously unfair contract but the promoter tells you that you signing this contract is the only way that you will get the title shot?

Jasper and peleador, you guys wouldn't understand this concept, being nieve must be blissful.

Dempsey answer that one and please do not say that these instances do not happen, they have been common practice for a long time.

And I might add that the only reason that you did not have trouble with King is probably because he was not truly interested in any of your fighters, except as opponents. Or he would have taken control of their careers as he does.

 

that isnt the only way to get a title shot.... I trust in my abilities and believe that I could get it thru a purse deal as a mandatory w/e tho. you are bitter and jaded its ok