And I still manipulated the poll with a few choice words and video evidence. I am the king of the posters!
:deal farmboxer is one of the most unbiased and knowledgable posters on esb. So..... Take with that what you will.
Wilder was knocked down by a jab from Klitschko during sparring for the Wach fight, he was also flattened by a left hook. There are, at least, a couple who post occasionally on this board who saw in at ringside. Wilder was beaten from one side of the ring to the other. There is video of Haye landing punches on Wilder is sparring, staggering him over and over again..................
There is also a bit of video around that could be considered as evidence that Wlad has a glass jaw. Just sayin.
I disagree Stiverne beat Arreola twice Manswell and Austin recently, all of whom are pretty much shot to **** and he struggled with Arreola both times they fought. Yet last year alone Cunningham beat both Mansour and Visinia who were both undefeated KO artists with ease except for the 2 Mansour brutal KD's but Cunningham is good at comebacks like that. Stiverne waits for his opponent to make a mistake to capitalize on, and that's pretty much his whole arsenal, but Cunningham does everything well, but nothing extraordinary. The Stiverne win was good but the Cunningham win was its equal and at this point Fury is further along than Wilder but for the record I think Wilder will KO Fury if they meet sorry lep.:yep
Mansour is also 41, and has not really beat anyone. You discredit Arreola but he's much better than Mansour and an unproven prospect in Visnia, you can't call someone with 10 fights a ko artist. Beating a 36 Cunningham who is a natural cruiser and coming off a loss whether you think it's a robbery or not is not as impressive as Stiverne who I think is much mroe skilled coming off 2 wins and a ko over a legit top 10 heavy. If this was 2007, and he was coming off a TKO over a huck that might be debatable, but I'd still heavily discredit a win over Cunningham since he's a cruiser, and Fury outweighed him by a whole lot. As for 2013 I would have to highly disagree with you saying it's equal, it's not even close to equal imo.
Scott is a better win than Cunningham, Mansour and Visnia as well. If Cunningham beats Glazkov, I might change my opinion, depends on how badly he beats him. I thought Scott clearly beat Glazkov.
Wilder's punch did not even land on Scott, that's why the crowd was booing to much. Watch the video..................Holyfield said that boxing is corrupt. Take a look at some of the decisions..................
My theory is Scott felt Wilder's power and he found a way to get out of the fight. He knew he was going to lose, and didn't want to get punished.
Scott isn't quite as good as Steve IMO, but you're right Scott should have got the nod over Glazkov, hopefully Cunningham finally fully exposes this fraud, you notice I've never done a Glazkov thread.
I think Glazkov beats Cunningham. We'll see. The reason I have Scott a better win than Cunningham is because he's a natural heavy, and Cunningham's only win at heavy before the Fury fight was Gavern. Hernandez had already dropped Cunningham 3 times and he was coming off losing 3 out of his last 4 fights. Even if you give Cunningham the win over Adamek, I thought Scott's win over Glazkov was much mroe clear, and Glaskov clearly beat Adamek. His overall resume is more impressive than Scott's, but at heavyweight I don't factor in fights he had 6 years ago especially when you're past your mid 30's, and in a different weight class.