Is Kronk Gym dead?

It closed afaik because of family politics and disagreements over the disposition of properties after Steward's death.

 

I also have lived in New Orleans and loved it there. Like Detroit, there are some parts of town I would be careful in but there are other parts of town that I thought were great. People have different comfort levels depending on their background. I can understand upper crust people not being comfortable in some urban environments but that doesn't make them s**tholes.

 

I hate that of all Steward's bombastic predictions, Stevenson is the one that posthumously came true.

I'd much rather see a kid like Tony Harrison, that grew up with Manny taking him under his wing and worked hard for him for years, be the one to fulfill his championship prognostication and carry on his name with a modicum of class - instead of that scumbag who only came to Kronk near the very end of Steward's life. (Manny only coached Stevenson for two matches, and knew him for barely even one year)

Nobody even knows about Harrison.

 

The Klitschko's had no interest in The Kronk even though Manny Steward totally resurrected Wlad's career. Wlad used Manny then forgot him. I must admit I'm surprised Lennox Lewis hasn't done something to keep Kronk going. Him & Manny always seemed close

 

Trust me, I'm not upper-crust. :yep

Of course any major city is going to have parts that aren't so bad (tourism and business sectors, mainly) but the measure of a city's livability index lies in how dangerous its more impoverished neighborhoods are. I come from a city that is worse than some but in no way shape or form among the worst, though it had more of that kind of reputation a couple of generations ago. I've also spent considerable time in NYC, which runs the gamut from one end of the spectrum to another more than perhaps anywhere else. I think anyone from the hardest, poorest block in Boston or NYC would be on-alert walking through a place like Baltimore (the shadier parts, that is - but even the "nicer ones" offer very little redeeming value to counterbalance the danger zones) if they didn't know anybody there.

 

Not all thankfully we still have Freddie Roach, Nacho Beristein etc

 

Right? These guys are millionaires. :huh

 

Wow

 

Its not the city that's at fault. Every city has great people living there but every city has its low life scum too sad to say. I first visited Kronk in '95 to watch Lennox Lewis train the place was really buzzing then. Its the lowlife scum of the earth that trash places & commit crimes. What is happening to the world I fear for my grandkids

 

Detroit's kind of a hole. The "average" home price in Detroit is $40,000 ... so you can get one for a lot less than that.

It's so cheap because absolutely no one wants to live there.

For all its problems, not to mention the continuing threat that it could suddenly be under water if a big storm decides to form, homes in New Orleans, on average, sell for five times what they do in Detroit.

They built the Silverdome in Pontiac in the 70s for $55 million. It literally lost 99% of its value over the next 30 years.

The whole area is kind of a hole. Maybe someone will fix it up. You can buy property there for a handshake. You just can't get anyone to move in because its such a terrible place to reside.

 

I don't blame the citizenry. (the upstanding ones, at least)

Some places just have more of that lowlife scum - higher % of the population and/or higher actual number - than others, and that is the metric by which people say this or that city is a ****-hole.

 

The current real estate market in Detroit is now one of the hottest in the country. True the average value of a home is about 40K but when you think that a couple of years ago the average value was about 18K, then that number isn't so bad. As hard as it is to believe for some of you people, surburbanites are actually moving back into the city. Detroit may never be what it used to be but it is moving in a positive direction from what it became.

 

My wife & I were in New Orleans for mardi gras a few years ago before Katrina hit. we walked back & forth along bourbon st then about 2.00 am decided to go off the beaten path to look at the city. Next thing I know 3 cops were there asking what we were doing. They soon realized we were just innocent tourists & said " We'll escort you back up to the main strip you don't need to be wandering around here. We wont come down here unless there are at least 2 or 3 of us" " Its not safe"

 

I lived in New Orleans from about 1976 to about 1980 and the city was not such a bad place then. Beautiful women and great food, what was there for a young man not to like? I worried more about the cops in New Orleans than the thugs, the cops there always had a bad reputation. You knew not to go into the projects but everywhere else in the city was fine. I have been back a couple of time since but I have only gone to certain areas so I can't say in general how the city is now.