Explain the Ducking History of Great Fighters Part I: Roy Jones

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  1. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    anti of bailey is good with me.

    but I am fair to joe in respect to what he did.
     
  2. Loudon

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    Your posts are embarrassing.

    How someone can argue against what Evander's attorney of 13 years said, just defies belief.

    You are hilarious!
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Seriously?

    Just how dense are you?

    You hate Roy that much, you've invented reasons. :lol:


    Just read the excerpt.

    Jim Thomas reported exactly what happened, and Lewis was nothing to do with it.

    You are making a complete fool of yourself.

    His attorney of 13 years said that Evander turned him down, because he felt he was in a no win situation at the time.

    If he won, no big deal. But if he'd have lost, it would have been embarrassing.


    Your posts are cringeworthy.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Okay.

    What exactly do you want to debate?

    Why he didn't face them, the challenges they would have brought?
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've produced TWO links you clown.

    :patsch
     
  6. HoldMyBeer

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    maybe as you see it
    calzaghe owed froch nothing, because until taylor went fishing for froch, carl had no rep outside of britain
     
  7. HerolGee

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    froch owed calzaghe returning the favour of the shot at a wordlt tiel that joe gave him when froch was green and below subnational.

    but yes joe was no longer interested in fighting him as a world class opponent true.
     
  8. HoldMyBeer

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    as it turned out, it wasn't that froch wasn't good enough, it was simply that froch hadn't 'graduated' to the next tier
    froch's rise coincided with calzaghe's retirement, as it happened
     
  9. HerolGee

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    yes froch was good enough for joe when a sub national, but when he graduated to euro and then world class he was no longer an option for joe since he was no longer good enough to meet joes strict subnational diet..

    whilst joe took the enviable "step up" from his usual defences (ahem) to facing shot 40something.
     
  10. HoldMyBeer

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    you can't fault joe's work at SMW
    sure, he fed on plenty of stiffs, but as a frank war+en fighter that was inevitable
    but he also beat any serious challenger
    fighting Hopkins and jones when he did was, I agree, just calzaghe stroking his ego - nothing more.

    froch wanted a shot at calzaghe because he had a profile that carl didn't. their careers were just out of synch
     
  11. HerolGee

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    sure I cant fault calzaghes many faults in picking opposition at SMW, no problem dude.

    well I can, but I don't need to, no worries. I wouldn't even pick holes in roys resume.
     
  12. HerolGee

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    yes he did beat Kessler and bika.


    yes true, joe acehvied a profile at 35 that froch had to wait till he turned 31 to attain in the form of one of the biggest three world titles.
     
  13. HoldMyBeer

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    calzaghe was THE man at SMW
    froch was just another belt holder, and never the man. big difference
     
  14. HerolGee

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    very true, 35 year old calzaghe was the man for a few weeks after beating Kessler, and for some strange reason never defended his man status at all and shat the responsibility of it quicker than his dad on a cheap picomax overdose.

    not sure what joe was before turning 35 though.

    froch has arguably been the man since ward hasn't shown up, and has owned one of the big three titles (or more) for years.
     
  15. HoldMyBeer

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    I know you want to be pedantic and try to discredit calzaghe's reign, but it ain't happening my friend ;)
    I enjoy locking horns with bailey as much as you do - but the difference is I have no issue with calzaghe's work at SMW - just his legacy and career path outside of it