rid**** bowe vs alexander povetkin ??

Totally agree.

But if Bowe beat Sasha it would be his second best victim. His resume is really, really thin for as highly as he tends to be rated.

 

I surely don't count Golota as Bowe 'victim' so his resume besides Holyfield isn't full of big names. Tubbs, Biggs, shot Thomas, Coetzer, Seldon, Ferguson, shot Dokes, Gonzalez, Donald and Hide.

Not bad, but too thin compared to Ali, Holyfield, Lewis, Holmes, Tyson etc.

 

Too thin compared to Wladimir, tho Bowe's ace in the discussion if beating Holyfield.

 

Outside of beating Holyfield, you could argue Bowe did nothing of note.

How can you be one of the top heavyweights of one of the most talent packed eras and yet your resume shows anything but?

Ive been known for knocking both Klits, but since the Povetkin fight, Wlad has seriously won me over. I still feel Vitali is overrated though.

 

Hide is a good win. He was undefeated and avoided when Bowe beat him ,dropping him around 10 times despite him being him survival mode.

Hide was ranked in the top 10 and destroyed Bentt , who had a top 5 ranking.
He was seen as a danger man back then and retired with 49 wins 4 loses , two being against good SHWs. Another loss he avenged with a first round stoppage.

Gonzalesz was also undefeated and ranked in the top 10 when Bowe flatened him.
Lionel Butler had a top 10 ranking and Bowe stopped him in 2 rounds in his professional debut.
Golota was in the top 10 and Bowe did beat him twice while on the slide.

Donald was undefeated and would beat Purrity who stopped Wlad in that same year.

Povetkin has Chambers , who was at his fattest and slowest and Chagg who was past it and had failed medicals to fight Haye and Valeuv rematch.
Tackam is a good win but not better than the above wins for Bowe.
Tackam is not ranked within the top 10.
Who else has Povetkin beat and gives him a better record than Bowe?

 

Bowe KO 4.

 

Hide, Butler, Gonzales are ok.

But do you not think, names like Ruddock, Bruno, Morrison, Mercer, Moorer, Foreman, Tyson, Holmes etc might have looked that little bit better?

 

Bowe vs Hide was a hilarious fight.

btw i don't think it's right at all to say Golota was lacking in balance and mobility, back in the mid-90s he had a strong stance and was as smooth and well balanced a mover as i've seen from any EE heavyweight.

Huge flaws in key areas-mostly mentally- that make him a bit of a mess as a fighter of course, but in terms of natural technical ability he was better than any of the recent ex-ussr guys, except Wlad.

 

As someone who was at two of these fights this is just high comedy.

And yes, Bowe BEAT Golota. That is the proper verb for his effort in those fights.

Your material is good. Take it on tour and you will supplant Louis CK in a year or two.

 

Bowe in the 90's was a tough customer to sell, very high risk fight for any opponent plus his Holyfield fights brought in the biggest $$ so naturally everything rotated towards there.

Bowe complained before the Golata fight that he wants to fight for the belt and not bums like Golata.....I guess he should have taken the pole more serious but nevertheless I am a 100 % certain no low blows the lackluster Bowe of the first fight stops him outright or makes him quit.

Futch saw the writing on the wall with Bowe derailing domestically and in the Ring and quit saying "I am too old to F around with a non committed fighter", he also admitted that Bowe was one of the most gifted fighters he ever trained.

As far as opponents, I dont think Ruddock was ever on the radar,Mercer derailed with Fergie, IMO Bruno or Morrison wanted nothing to do with him, IMO Atlas would never let him near Moorer, Foreman stated in public that he woulld not fight Bowe under any circumstances, Holmes , maybe but I believe Larry knew he would take a career beating, after Tysons release the stars never aligned properly for a fight and soon Bowe was done, so , yeah, he could have a deeper resume and despite a HBO housefighter other big deals never came thru. Throw in his short prime and that explains most.

 

completely uncompetitive?

we are talking Rid**** Bowe?

when did he ever dominate top fighters?

I agree that Bowe may win but I don't buy todays heavy weights being the worst in history, that's ****.

Bowe was good no doubt, however, he is over rated imo.

Especially on this forum.

 

He had two of the belts. Everyone wanted to get in the ring with him for chance at those… including Lewis.

Golota was beating him to the jab. Where was the vaunted Bowe jab?
And as far as fouling, go watch Bowe's effort against Pierre Coetzer. When Coetzer didn't follow script and fold after a few rounds, Rid**** hit him low, hit him when down (from a low blow) and hit him low again and again.

Bowe's supposed legacy is based on a trilogy of fights with a guy whose style complimented his to make exciting fights. He's no more than a heavyweight Arturo Gatti in my book, if even that good. Like Gatti, his greatest career move is meeting the right foil.

 

It was already established that you dont like the guy, fine, I get it but in the 90's he was a top name fighter with a lot more HP at the Box office and Public reception then Povetkin or your dear WK.

Apparently he did not need a jab against Golata because Golata quit twice because the guy never ever could take the heat (Pa'ua, Nicholson etc).....lol, why do you think Golata went low after low after 100000 warnings and point deductions ?

However , I agree, Bowe's mindset and complete disregard for defense and mano di mano attitude finished him as a fighter with those two events

 

WK isn't even in my top 20 favorite heavies. Hell, I liked his brother better. I'm just not going to go with those who say a guy who has dominated the division for 8 years is a bum. Sorry, I know and have known too many boxers in the pro ranks. Go to a gym and tell them they are all less than this bum who has ruled the roost for so long.

But Bowe is vastly overrated for what he actually accomplished, even though I feel that he could have accomplished much, much more.

 

We are finally getting somewhere....I never said WK is a bum, to the contrary the guy would make a mark in ANY period however his fights lack true Hwy "eventness ' or attract attention like previuos outstanding Hwy champs., he just never electrifies the masses, only purists understand his craft.

Agreed on that Bowe was a under achiever but sometimes you can take the guy out of the ghetto but never the ghetto out of the guy.