rid**** bowe vs alexander povetkin ??

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  1. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Bowe comes in at his best, he might outwork Povetkin, and edge a decision but anything less, I'm betting the house on Povetkin.

    Povetkin may not be as great as Holyfield. Holyfield would have never got outboxed by Huck. But against Bowe, Povetkin brings the same educated pressure, equal if not more hand speed and true HW one punch power. And unlike Evander, Povetkin is coming in at a lean 230 these days, just 5 lbs less than Bowe's best weight. So Bowe isn't going to be able to muscle and maul this guy as easily.
     
  2. latineg

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    finished him as a fighter after two events and thus Bowe had one of the shortest careers of all top HW fighters with one of the fewest top wins of all top HW fighters,

    I hate to say it but I have always felt it was a American thing, whereas Americans just loved and over rated Bowe for 3 super exciting fights that were amazing compared to some boring type of fights that other better fighters were in, namely Lewis who I think would of beat Bowe possibly by a wide margin.

    Americans fell in love with Bowe because of 3 great fights he gave Holy and in my opinion Holy wasn't fully roided up as much as he was to come after those fights,
     
  3. latineg

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    lmao at betting the house on Povotkin if Bowe comes in anything less, yeah its fair to say Bowe had "training issues" , he came in to some of his fights in such bad shape it turned him into a different fighter, a **** fighter, lol,

    I think that Bowe vs Povotkin would be a good fight, I could see it being fairly close either way, yeah again, if Bowe comes in his best shape.
     
  4. sauhund II

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    Povetkin was getting thrown around by WK like a rag doll.........nobody EVER muscled Bowe around and that includes sparring where I was present a couple of times.

    Povetkins "one punch KO power" lol, against who, washed up has beens or never weres ?

    Featherfisted Chambers turned his face tomatoe red..........

    Prime vs Prime Bowe is a decisive favorite..............fighting the first time for a title(s) that mattered against one of the most game, tough, foul and skilled Hwyweight , Holyfield, Bowe delivered clear cut, fact, and Povetkin choked against a aging safety first Champ on the tail end of his career.....
     
  5. Seamus

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    Germany and Ukraine seems pretty electrified by him. The US and UK can't relate. He's had some damn effective performances, tho. I remember one of my favorites, Lennox Lewis, being called out as "safety first" and "weak chinned" and "lacking fire"… How silly that seems now. He was one of the greatest, most tested champions the division ever saw.
    That is decidedly un-PC.

    But otherwise, I don't think it was a ghetto thing (whatever that means) but he was just kind of a tool. Newman used his ass, wanted him to be an Ali prototype and promote the NOI agenda but could have cared less. He wanted to cash his ticket as soon as possible. Funny thing about him, tho. As lazy and undisciplined as he was in preparation, he actually fought with a lot of heart and dedication.
     
  6. The Mongoose

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    Wlad is bigger and stronger than Bowe, he had 16 lbs on Povetkin. Bowe would not unless we are talking fat Bowe. Bowe got pushed around in pro fights, Holyfield III comes to mind.

    And my point wasn't that Povetkin would bully Bowe, but that Bowe would have a harder time bullying him than a 205 lb Evander.

    One punch power is one punch power. He gave Charr and Takam their only KO losses. Say what you will, they are durable guys.

    And yet, iron fisted Wlad couldn't KO him.

    Poor ****ogy.
     
  7. mcvey

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    Povetkin is not a top level ko puncher and is easy to catch with the jab. An in shape Bowe creams him.
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    And Holyfield was no more than the club fighter Mickey Ward Yeah?

    If my material is up there with Louis CK , then yours is down there with Andrew The Diceman:thumbsup
     
  9. Big Ukrainian

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    Oh, please no.

    Bowe has 2 wins over great fighter, Gatti has none.

    As much as I like Gatti, he never in his life was A level fighter.

    Gatti went life and death against Wilson Rodriguez (who is no better at his weight division than Jesse Ferguson).

    Gatti in his prime lost 3 fights in a row to Manfredy and Ivan Robinson (twice), each of them never won a single title fight.

    That's like Bowe in his prime losing to Gonzalez and to Lionel Butler (twice).

    Bowe went 2-1 against 4-time world HW champion Holyfield.

    Gatti went 2-1 against shot 37 y.o. glorified jorneyman Mickey Ward.

    I'm not biased here, I like Gatti and he's one of my favourite fighters to watch, but the facts are undeniable.
     
  10. Seamus

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    The ****ogy to Gatti was that Bowe, like Arturo, is most famous for having met his perfect foil not that they were on same level skill and accomplishment wise… tho the gap is not as great as some would believe. He just didn't prove a lot outside those match-ups, one of which he lost.
     
  11. shavers

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    I know a lot of posters here are only in their early twenties and have only seen Bowe in Golotas highlightfilms...But the Young prime Bowe 90-95. Was the real deal. Bowe would Pound Povetkin from the outside like Wlad, and terrorise him on the inside like no one else...Povetkin would be stopped by the ref around round 8 or 9.
     
  12. kingfisher3

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    youtube, lots of fights on it, could be 15 and have seen every bowe fight.
     
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  14. Seamus

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    I was around during his whole career. I was initially very excited about his potential but the seams started to show early on with his conduct both in and out of the ring. Undedicated, sloppy and fought his own game plan to his detriment. Those factors limited what should have been a great heavyweight.

    I would still pick him to win this one if he were in shape and focused (but how often did that happen?)... However Povetkin gives him a very tough night. Povetkin was a stride or two ahead of guys who gave Bowe trouble like Golota, Coetzer and and a 33 year old Tubbs.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

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    Bowe didn't bother with his defence partly because he would just outgun everyone or at least he thought he could. He had a heck of a chin

    And comparing him to Gatti is laughable. No he doesn't have the greatest resume but it's arguably on par with Foreman's or if you want a lower weight fighter with a poor resume who's considered elite Tyszu, but Tyszu doesn't have the same stand out win. Maybe Aaron Pryor is a better resume comparison.

    BTW Povetkin just isn't very good, did you see his performance against Huck? Now Huck is just an average slugger, he isn't even P4P as good as Bowe. Any pre marines version of Bowe manhandles Povetkin far easier than Huck fat overweight and dispensing with defence or not.