Jim Jeffries v Povetkin?

So you are saying that Jeffries beats Povetkin? How so? Outboxing him from the distance, or knocking him out using one of his wild single punch attempts?

Or is it simply because of the fact that Jeffries defeated guys who were even worse than him?

You also need to explain your own stance instead of keep questioning the common sense, and the common sense is that the late 19th/early 20th century athlete is not comparable to the modern, 21st century athlete.

 

I am saying that I do not know who would win, because it is hard enough to predict the outcome of a fight between two men who share an era.

I know that Jeffries was far more successful in his own era than Povetkin has been.

This makes Jeffries winning the default assumption, unless a counter argument can be constructed.

If you put a gun to my head, I would say that Jeffries sustained body attack would either wear Povetkin Dow, or lead to him loosing a decision.

 

Seriously? So now Jeffries wins by default because he was beating guys in 1900s?

Ok, this is definitely an unbeatable argument. Basically defenseless guy with little-to-no accuracy (nor footwork) from 1900s wears down an elite 20th century heavyweight, that totally makes sense. I can notice that intelligence and common sense aren't actually among the most present things here.

 

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I don't want to be mean to you here, but you don't even know who Jeffries was.

You don't understand his style, you don't understand him as a fighter, and you don't understand his era.

Until bayou assimilate this basic information, you probably shouldn't hold a strong opinion one way or the other.

You have made the argument that boxing has advanced since Jeffries era, and this is plausible, but you can't simply assume it without evidence.

You are basing your position on a single assumption, and if that assumption is wrong, the whole house of cards collapses.

 

Is it still mean if you are right?

 

And yet this 21st century athlete was once holding onto his opponents trunks to stay up , as he was knackered after only 5 rounds.

Athlete's are people who pole vault and run around a track. Boxers - fighters of old- training , endurance , stamina , grit and battle resistance makes today's scene look like amateur hour.

 

Povetkin is unathletic ****.Seemingly this guy doesn't know the ripped
well-shaped muscular body.Lots of girl have better muscle definition.
Povetkin sucks.Jeffries was a good athlete.
Modern athlete? Povetkin is far away from a good athlete.
w. klitschko fight showed his thighs and other muscles are incredible weak.

 

Jeffries will remain a legend until the end of time where as Povetkin will likely be forgotten by casual boxing fans in 20 years. But that doesn't convince me we are looking at a better professional in the Boilermaker. Povetkin was brought up with a real amateur career with hundreds of fights and professional training before entering a pro ring. Jeffries amateur career was short lived and didn't have that many pro fights either. The majority of his best opponents were men who wouldn't have made the heavyweight perameters in this era and in this case he'd be facing a man whom he'd enjoy no size advantage over. Having his nose broken on three occasions, one has to question James defense and with the tendency to get close and try to tie up his opponents, this could potentially be a mistake against a well rounded inside fighter with good precision power and battle tested chin along with the size and strength to muscle with him up close. While Alexander has never gone beyond 12 rounds and Jeffries has gone 20+ I'm not sure that this would be a significant factor. Fighters paced themselves a lot more 100+ years ago and weren't accustomed to faster paced fights. Furthermore, its one thing to linger around when you're 6'1", 215 lbs and facing a man who is 5'9" 180. Its another matter entirely when you're against someone who has equal or greater physical tools. A 40 year old Bob Fitzsimmons did plenty of damage to Jeffries in their two fights and that was when bob was finished and Jeff was prime with a huge size advantage..

 

A.P. may have just went past 30 fights and early on he was not in good condition. When he fought Huck, he was blowing hard. Since Vlad IMO he has shown improvement and looks like he is putting it all together better. These days only a few of the top 50 Heavyweights are under 30 years of age and a lot of the top guys are over 35 so A.P. still has time to do some stuff

 

At 35 years of age and with 10 years of career behind him, I seriously doubt he's improving. At best we're looking at long term maintenance of what he's already got, but that's about it.

 

I'd expect Povetkin to outbox Jeffries pretty easily. Boxing moved on after these early days like any other sport.