Why do boxers nowadays not utilize the pull counter?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC!, Feb 2, 2015.


  1. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

    60,129
    5,613
    Nov 5, 2013
    We've seen Floyd use it to great success earlier in his career and even today, he utilized it exceptionally against Mosley/Maidana etc etc.

    Why do fighters nowadays not use it?
     
  2. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

    39,120
    1,801
    Sep 10, 2013
    I'm glad you ONLY talk about Floyd, instead going on anti-Pacquiao campaigns like Constable or whoever does towards Floyd. You're much less offensive.
     
  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

    52,105
    23,328
    Aug 27, 2011
    yeh but dont criticise floyd infront of MVC, He blows a stack lol.
     
  4. The Masked Man

    The Masked Man Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,732
    5
    Dec 19, 2012
    Why can't I go to bed with Salma Hayek?
     
  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

    38,369
    7,945
    Sep 2, 2011
    I'd assume it requires great skill and timing, not something you can do easily. I mean you can say the same about the shoulder roll, there's a reason why Floyd is the p4p #1 today, because he can do things most other can't.
     
  6. Beatdaddy

    Beatdaddy Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,363
    4
    Nov 3, 2013
    Typically, rolling to the outside or inside (more dangerous, if done wrong) of the jab sets up better shots and keeps one in closer proximity to land power shots, often without an opponent seeing them coming. Pull counters tend to be easier to spot and easier to counter or avoid. I think Floyd might have some trouble with the pull counter against another elite fighter, but the slower guys he usually fights seem to eat them all night.
     
  7. Zimornsky

    Zimornsky King Fluid IV = CHEAT banned

    6,168
    11
    Dec 6, 2014
    [yt]HsuRh5EyyxA[/yt]

    Skip to 27 seconds...

    :hey
     
  8. LastQuark

    LastQuark Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,928
    0
    Apr 29, 2006
    ^^^ MVC is coming....... 3....2.....1...
     
  9. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,938
    55
    Jul 28, 2008
  10. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,126
    57
    Dec 1, 2009
    Because it's high risk, hard to put power into, and requires you to be much faster than your opponent.
     
  11. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,067
    1,271
    Sep 13, 2013
    Maybe if the OP actually watched other fighters he would realize that it IS used..
    Rigo, Andrade, Broner.... Only a certain style of fighter can do it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCSHhmZkvlc

    Watch some other fighters sometime (go to 21 seconds in)

    EDIT: What I will say is that there are far fewer fighters with basic fundamentals than there used to be.
     
  12. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,446
    154
    Dec 11, 2010
    A better question would be where the hell is the jab! It feels like it's becoming a lost art. ( little exaggerated) BUT lately I feel like I see more pole arms and paws than an actual jab.
     
  13. BOMB SQUAD

    BOMB SQUAD Active Member Full Member

    1,024
    1
    Jan 18, 2015
    Thanks brah. Now I have to rub one out.:oops:
     
  14. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

    3,403
    5
    Mar 25, 2007
    Its something that trainers would not really teach their boxers unless you have fast reflexes like floyd or roy jones. Unless you wanna get knocked out if you have an average chin, the pull counter is in reality a big no-no for old school trainers
     
  15. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

    17,775
    1,631
    Jul 13, 2012
    does MVC get banned regularly?