Explain the Ducking History of Great Fighters Part I: Roy Jones

Lets say the fight was in Wembley. They can't charge high prices because the majority of the seats are so far from the ring the fighters look like ants. So the gate in Vegas where they can charge obscene amounts for floor seats and tier 2 seating more than make up for what they could charge in a huge arena.

Plus as he already stated the PPV in the States is triple what it is in the UK.

For example if it was as easy as putting it in a huge staduim they would be doing Mayweather-Pacquiao in Dallas at the Cowboys stadium and not the MGM grand. Looks at the gates Pacquiao got at Dallas and compare to Floyd's in Vegas with half the people. That will give you your answer.

 

The casinos pay a lot of money to stage fights because they know they'll get it back on the tables and in the slot machines

 

Do you always lump nationalities, races, etc into incredibly broad, dumb generalisations?

 

Now this is some b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t !



Wether he was the best fighter in the world ,DM thought so why else would he have called him out ? Funny the "lineal champ " is calling out Jones guess he knew something some of you didn't !

Once again for the 100th time Darius was not stripped because he couldn't defend his title within a month he had no intentions of it ! Khol is on record saying the wanted nothing to with Guthrie because he was a KING fighter and the WBA stripped him because he refused to fight Lou Devalle who was his mandatory for the Wba !


Also I find it convenient that Jones continued to refuse the fight yet Kerry Davis and HBO bent over backwards to make the fight yet they never bother to return calls ! But Jones refused :?

And bull**** about being robbed what did you not see DM's award winning performance against Rochi and the low blow ...Yeah I'm sure Roy thought Germany was on the up and up that's why he didn't want to fight there atsch

 

Two things:

Shouldn't Roy have been doing everything in his power to fight DM since he was THE champion and was also the rightful owner of the WBO/WBA/IBF belts?

Jones had no problem fighting Ruiz who had:

faked low blows to get a 'win' over Kirk Johnson (one of the most disgraceful displays I have seen)

faked a low blow to avoid what was a legit KO by Holyfield via bodyshot

that is 2 examples right there yet Jones fought him. Why? :huh

 

Once again who called out who ? Who wore we want Jones T shirts ?

Why didn't DM's promoter not return Kerry Davis calls ?

DM said he had no problems coming here as long as he was paid ..So tell me again why should Roy have chased him if he called him out ?

And Ruiz was a HW what does that have to do with Germany's reputation of corruption any way ?

 

you said Jones didn't want to fight a guy that was going to 'act' and fake an injury etc. Well, I just gave you two disgraceful examples of Ruiz doing such and Jones had no issue fighting him.

My point was if Jones was a legit champion he should have wanted to fight the best and should have been doing everything in his power to fight DM to prove it. As usual he didn't. That is what champions do well unless you are named Roy Jones you fight Otis Grant or Rick Frazier :rofl

 

No I said it had to do with Germany's reputation of corruption I see that you clearly missed that point in order to prove yours .

Uh he did want to fight him like I said HBO went out of their way to make th fight and guess who didn't even bother to negotiate ? I'll give you a hint it wasn't ROY ! Oh and I almost forgot Otiz Hrant and Ricky Fraizer made up his whole resume atsch

 

The line of guys Roy fought in that 6 year period were disgraceful. So much so that HBO was having their commentator apologize after fights for the display they put on to their paying customers. Germany is no more corrupt than any other place. People are ripped off in the States all the time. Roy being afraid to travel is a Roy problem. That isn't anyone elses problem.

Jones didn't fight the #1 guy in 3 of the 4 weight classes he fought in. That there gives us a sample size to how his mind worked. He wasn't interested in making tough fights. He simply didn't care. Now, in hindsight since he is essentially broke and has multiple tax liens on his possessions I can guarantee you if you were to ask him he would tell you he should have taken some of those big fights instead of being reluctant what his own network called him btw...

 

Again who called out who ? Seems you always miss that ..Funnynthe guy who called out Jones when offered the fight he and his team refused but he is labled as reluctant Roy ..And look at the lhw division when DM and Jones were at the top ..Who had the better wins ?


And Jones never fought the number 1 guy any any divison where was Hopkins ranked at middle when they fought by the IBF ?

Your selective criticism has not changed one bit I see .

 

Before you try telling people they are dumb, I suggest you understand that Americans are not a race. Unfortunately too many fools like you pull the race card these days when have not got a fvcking clue what they are talking about.

 

You do the maths.

500k PPV's at 50 dollars,

or 500k PPV's at £ 15 which in 2007 might have been 2 dollars to the pound.

= $ 30.

It is really quite simple. In the UK fights are only shown on Satellite TV, subscribers have to pay a monthly fee of say £50 ( minimum ) just for the package, consequently very few of them will pay an extra premium for fights, and they certainly wouldn't pay £25 for a fight back in 2007.

 

Was Ruiz a German, who Roy would be fighting in Germany? If not then you have no point. I honeslty believe Roy felt he would get cheated in some way over there.

This has been done to death, Roy wasn't going to fight in Germany... I don't think DM was too serious about coming over here as I have read quotes of Khol saying they wouldn't change plans to fight Roy, instead DM fought some bum on his birthday. That's the actions of a real "Champ"

You like to pick apart Roy's resume, go the at who THE champ was fighting during his reign.. Some of his competition is laughable.