The Marquez vs Pacquiao nonsense

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  1. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marquez won the rivalry because of KTFO6. Period.
     
  2. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    man when you actually gonna post something good....been waiting for months now.

    Why does somebody have to be a JMM fan or floyd fan to score these fights?? I like Pac but i keeps it real.

    first fight Pac won (Lost more rounds)

    2nd fight i had Pac winning because of knockdown (6-6 so pac still hasnt won more rounds) now having a card like 6-6 means somebody can have 7-5 for either guy so I cant argue with ppl that had JMM 114-113 or 115-112

    3rd fight, clear lost for Pac, fight not even close.

    4 fight, clear winner in Marquez

    Now what does that have to do with JJM/Floyd fans, so you telling me all those writers that had JMM winning the 2nd and or 3rd fight are all JMM/Floyd fans??

    I highly doubt that bro, please start posting good because everything i see is ****!
     
  3. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao - Marquez 1

    http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0503/box_a_marquez_pacquiao1_576.jpg

    Pacquiao - Marquez 2

    couldnt find the right photo but both fighters raised their hands

    Pacquiao - Marquez 3

    http://ffaasstt.swide.com/wp-content/uploads/manny-pacquiao-v-juan-manuel-marquez-2.jpg

    Pacquiao - Marquez 4

    http://www.boxinginsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Marquez_Pacquiao_121208_001a.jpg
     
  4. Super Hans

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    I have it 2-0 Pacquiao with 2 no contests as Marquez was juiced to the gills.
     
  5. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    :patsch:patsch:patsch

    I guess that juicing was good for the first 2 fights since JMM won more rounds in the first fight and the 2nd was as close as it gets
     
  6. ValentinePrince

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    The 3rd fight is one of the egregiously overblown psuedo-robberies in boxing history. Very close fight, for all practical purposes it was a draw. People expected Marquez to get done in and thus overrated the performance he put on.

    I actually think Marquez won the first fight 114-111, even though that's the one most people have Pacquiao winning.

    I've scored the second fight a couple times and I think I had it 114-113 for Pacquiao. Very close though.
     
  7. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Yep 3rd fight was clear loss, Pac knows hence why he wanted 4th fight badly
     
  8. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree buc. I think team Pac were thinking JMM was done and they thought they would end the series with a definitive KO.

    Well... at least they were right about the KO part... sort of. Lol
     
  9. Jordan_Davies

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    If I remember correctly before the 3rd fight Marquez was beginning to look like he was on the slide

    since the 2nd fight Marquez had struggled in a war with Diaz, was dominated by Mayweather, dropped by katsidis and then only had a 1 round fight against a guy who clearly threw the fight leading up to the 3rd fight.

    Meanwhile Pacquiao beat down Delahoya, Hatton, Cotto, Mosley and Margarito . . . .

    All this happened in a 3/4 year gap and Pacquaio also dragged Marquez up from 135 to 147 to take the fight . . . . who the **** expected Marquez to get the job done?



    Also your scorecard for the 1st Pacquiao fight doesnt look quite right to me . . . . care to explain how you come up with such an obscure score?
     
  10. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Nah, they took the fight because they thought they lost/ or you can say havent gave the fans a clear winner as pac said

    yes they went for KO so no drama and to end the series
     
  11. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    I think its one of the biggest robberis in awhile bro. Im sitting there like "I pray they dont rob this man" Even after the bell rang Pac sitting there like "I lost" you can see it all day.

    I remeber having 8-4 clearly
     
  12. texboxing00

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    3rd fight was a robbery

    And before the pac****s start, I believe Bradley outclassed jmm and so did Floyd. I don't even think the weight difference or a In shape jmm would of gave floyd competition.


    3rd fight was a robbery. People tend to forget that boxing is a opinionated sport. A lot of fans are not educated on proper scoring and often feel influenced by the telecast commentators and wreckless throwing

    Jmm put a text book boxing lesson on PAC In the 3rd fight. He tamed the beast and mastered PAC. He played PAC right into his game and made him look desperate. I have no doubt, the judges and commentators were in on this. Freddie even told PAC they needed a knock out to win, acknowledging that his fighter was loosing.

    The look on PACs face and his team said it all, sure he claimed victory but what boxer has ever admitted to defeat when given a gift???

    Jmm is my favorite fighter, but still rank PAC a lot higher as he deserves and he still one of my favorite current fighters.
     
  13. Super Hans

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    There was no evidence of juicing in the first two fight- unlike when Marquez was covered in acne. Pacquiao edged them on my scorecard based on the knockdowns :deal
     
  14. Jordan_Davies

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    Convenient to accuse Marquez of roiding up and not Pacquiao :lol:

    Its odd Pacquiao was a KO machine up until Ariza left . . . . suddenly no more KO's :lol:
     
  15. Jordan_Davies

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    Floyd outclassed Marquez no doubt, Bradley fight was a lot closer though. Floyd Shut out Marquez whilst the Bradley fight was a SD

    Marquez is a counter puncher so when hes forced to lead like the Bradley/Mayweather fights he ends up making mistakes

    with Pacquiao he has a guy coming forward trying to knock him out which gives him the perfect chances to counter