Rios is still not very good at all

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  1. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    call me crazy BUT I feel there is a pretty damn great of a difference between "not being very good AT ALL" and there not being able to compete at the "highest level"..

    I understand we are comparing rios to other pro fighters so yes, he isn't all that great, tho that's far different than not being all that good. rios is good, very good but he isn't ever capable of being an elite level fighter. he has 1 elite level attribute and that is his chin, the rest of his attributes are actually below average for world level fighters
     
  2. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    How was Margarito better then Rios?? like really, what does he do better?? not a damn thing!! both punching bags but Rios is faster and more accurate
     
  3. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    good post
     
  4. fruitpunch

    fruitpunch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto would definitely stop Rios

    It would be a mismatch

    Cotto could barely stop a shot Margarito in the rematch because of the eye injury. Other than the eye Margarito seemed fine to continue.

    Not hating on Cotto btw, just trying to show how tough and relentless Margarito was.

    Rios has a hell of a chin but the pressure he puts on his opponents isn't nearly that of Margarito

    Margarito nearly stopped Pac on body shots (according to Pac) while Rios couldn't do ****

    Margarito beat Martinez as you noted and I seriously doubt that Rios could do that

    Rios would get completely shut out by a prime Paul Williams
     
  5. Staminakills

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    LMFAO, now its anbumio margabum that "scared floyd' into retiring for the EXACT amount of time it took for Floyds rematch claus with ODH to run out, ummmm no way that had ANYTHING to do with it.

    first it was cotto and ssm that scared Floyd into retirement, LOL go figure, of course once Floyd beats the hell out of them BOTH you need to divert attention to a new boogieman
     
  6. fruitpunch

    fruitpunch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please. A prime Cotto woulda dealt with Mayweather too

    But the fact of the matter is mayweather seemed genuinely shook by Margarito more than anyone else at that time

    Look up the video of where Margarito calls Mayweather out and tell me you don't smell the fear right through the screen :lol:
     
  7. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    :deal:thumbsup
     
  8. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    prime cotto never beats Mayweather so stop it. so ig uess when Mayweather beats Pac, expect for giving the man credit your gonna say "Prime Pac KO's Mayweather" great argument bro :-:)-:)patsch:patsch
     
  9. fruitpunch

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    Prime pac definitely had a better chance but if Mayweather's ***** ass sacks up and actually fights Pac then he'll get credit from me win lose or draw
     
  10. fruitpunch

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    btw, I did give Mayweather credit for fighting cotto even if Cotto was pretty faded at that point
     
  11. Staminakills

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    I know you tried but you failed miserably at making any relevant point you a actually did the opposite.

    now, the facts are rios isn't anything close to an elite level fighter but he still light years better than marg ever could had been

    what does marg beating a brand new to the sport, totally unconditioned and flat out one of the most over rated fighters to ever grace ay boxing forum in SM.

    just because rios wouldn't be able to beat a prime SM has NO bearing on the different level of fighter marg and rios are.
    the reason I mention a Prime SM is because he wasn't even considered decent until he hit his 30's which were his prime years.

    and ummmmm marg "almost" stopped paq, WTF, going a little overboard, one could say marg ALMOST landed a couple clean shots in that match, that's truly as far as that myth could be taken..

    LMFAO, what does rios having no shot vs paul w have to do with who is better between rios and anbumio ????

    i'll answer for you, don't want you to melt the remaining brain cells you have left away...

    the answer is MORE than ZERO
    you really are comparing a 140 lber in rios going against a 154 lber in PW as why anbumio is better ??? I would expect nothing less.

    rios is a far far far better fighter than bumio, you ask what rios does better, ? ok lets start with EVERYTHING and a couple more things. the ONLY attribute one could say (with a legi argument that could be made) is "pressure" not sure if walking directly towards his opponents taking clean shot after clean shot counts as pressure BUT i'll let it slide.....


    back to your first missed point,

    Cotto would definitely stop Rios

    It would be a mismatch


    in sports there are truly very few things that are a definitely , so missed points confirmed
     
  12. fruitpunch

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    When I said "Cotto would definitely stop Rios", I meant that I feel very confident that Cotto would stop Rios.

    Its my opinion.

    No **** that its not confirmed. The fight never happened.

    Do I have to spell everything out to you like you're two years old :lol:

    Seriously though, when you say **** like ****ing Rios is "light years better than marg" you lose all credibility.

    If ****ing Rios is that much better than marg then he should be able to beat anyone that marg beat or at least be competitive with anyone marg beat.

    Second of all, thinking about how a fighter would do against another fighters comp does not prove which fighter is better but it can give insight into how they would match up against each other.


    I'd like to ask you a question. What would prove to you that marg is better than rios?

    Comparing competition doesn't seem to cut it for you

    So would a h2h ****ysis work? Because I assure you that most people with any knowledge of boxing would pick marg over rios at welter.

    Sorry but your "missed points" are much further off than anything I said.
     
  13. Staminakills

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    I cant believe this was said by one claiming to be a "fan".. now, in no way shape or form would I never ever ever claim you, at some point and timd, had credibility to lose but say for sh!ts and giggles say you had then this post from you would lose all, prior and post credibility you could've possibly would've maybe had.

    ALL GONE, you're seriously sitting here and trying to convince yourself one way or another that having a fighter fight WAY out of their own division is in any way a determining factor in who is a better fighter than who ?

    come on kid, get a hold of yourself. the basics here, just the basics, triangle theories hardly ever follow suit.. and even in the small minority when they do hold true its hardly ever, if that much, never out of their weight divisions..


    maybe one day, you'll be able to grasp basics. not looking promising per your posts day in and day out
     
  14. MrPR

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    Margarito on his best night manhandles Rios on his best night .
     
  15. fruitpunch

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    You're silly. We're not discussing p4p clown. These are two guys who both had fights at welter so its a h2h scenario.

    Don't be an idiot.