The Marquez vs Pacquiao nonsense

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Typhoon, Feb 4, 2015.


  1. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All fights were great. I would never argue any one having PAC as the winner of the first 2 fights. I my self scored the 1st for PAC, 2nd for jmm (though sometimes I may score it for pac, closest fight by far) but the 3rd was a clear cut win for jmm.

    Also, another interesting punch that seems to be left out, is the monstrous shot that jmm landed on PAC after being knocked down in the 4th fight. The camera view was terrible and changed quickly, but you hear lampley "AND HE STUNS PACQUIAO WITH THW THIS THUNDEROUS SHOT!" and the crowd wows at it. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a good clip of it but you can see it on the telecast , jmm lands it and PAC rocks back. Right after jmm got up from his knock down.
     
  2. Sal-Chicha

    Sal-Chicha Active Member Full Member

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    You should learn how to count. The great Marquez knocked down Pacman to bring him down to earth and after that he knocked out Pacquiao cold, laying down the biggest ***** slap in history. Marquez wasn't going to let the judges rob him anymore.
     
  3. slash

    slash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    marquez don't want another one, like pacquiao called for. he'd get the return ko

    so, pacquiao is now hunting mayweather. mayweather is running still, too
     
  4. Sal-Chicha

    Sal-Chicha Active Member Full Member

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    Why do you think Pacquiao kept giving those fights to Marquez? After the 3rd fight it was Pacquiao, not Marquez, that said "No more fights with Marquez." The only reason Pacquiao kept giving Marquez the fights was because Marquez kept outfighting Pacman and Pacman was forced to fight him by the public or else Pacquiao wouldn't be the people's champion anymore. Marquez is 40+ yrs old and you still want Pacquiao to fight him? :patsch What if it happens again, huh? Now that he's alot older, heavier, and slower, Marquez isn't putting anymore clinics, he knows he'll get robbed with Pacquiao. He's going ***** out and going to knockout Manny again. Even Bradley hit him with the same punch, but no power.
     
  5. SouthChicagoRay

    SouthChicagoRay Active Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao fans should never accuse any athlete of steroids or any sort of performance enhancing drugs...they outta be ashamed of themselves
     
  6. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and Pac beat Marquez 2-0-1 before Marquez started juicing. Anyone find it fishy that at 40 Marquez was stronger than ever before? In the 3 previous fights, JMM caught Pac many times and NEVER KO'd him. All of a sudden, in 4th fight...he floors Pac twice and seemed physically stronger. Now how fishy is this?

    Bradley was extremely suspicious of JMM when they fought. There is an interview where Bradley states that JMM refused to do the standard drug testing and instead they used some private company; Bradley said he was suspicious and fed up with the games that were being played with the drug testing. JMM's back was also full of acne, which is at times a side effect of taking drugs.'

    It was very fishy to me how JMM was stronger than ever at 40, this is what he needed to KO Pac. He probably thought to himself 'i can't beat him on points, gotta KO him but i have never been able to floor him; time to juice'
     
  7. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Actually the judge error in the first fight robbed Pac of the win, not the other way around.

    The third judge, Burt Clements, had a 113-113 tie. His scoring included a 10-7 opening round because, he admitted later, he did not realize he could give a 10-6 round. If Clements had scored the opening round 10-6, as the other two judges had, Pacquiao would have won by 113-112 on Clements's card and earned a split decision.
     
  8. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I honestly don't get the controversy for the third fight, I thought it was a clear Pac win as he coasted and outboxed Marquez. I know lots of people see it differently, but this is one where I just have to throw up my arms and say "I don't get it."

    Now, their second fight was the close one, Marquez maybe edged.
     
  9. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Pac won the first and the third, and lost the second and (obviously) the 4th...

    Though In my opinion they are 2-2, Marquez got the better of him because of that dramatic KO, and that he was very competitive all 4 fights.
     
  10. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    because pac haters will cry robbery...

    the problem is that it's nearly impossible to outpoint Manny Pacquiao, you have to knock him out! only guy that has been able to outpoint Manny was Erik Morales, when Pac wasn't as good. Pac later KO'd morales in 2 subsequent fights


    Marquez's strategy vs Pacqiao was always to brawl with him, get hit but hit too. The problem with this strategy is that Pacquiao always throws more punches and is faster; it's truly very difficult to out punch him. Maequez always made it competitive but it's just so hard to beat Pac on points... How do you outpoint a guy that is faster than you, accurate and throws more punches?

    The ones calling robbery simply were impressed by Marquez going toe to toe with Pac and feel he deserves a win just because of this. Of course, the mexicans and pac haters will cry robbery.
     
  11. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There can be no dispute about the KTFO6, the judges didn't play a factor in it and even butthurt Pac fans can't argue (but they do anyway) :deal:deal:deal The boxing gods atoned for JMM III when they gave Bradley the win.
     
  12. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nothing fishy. JMM has always had a higher KO% than Pac. And it was Pac who declined testing in the 4th fight. Roach wanted it.
     
  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Jmm never complained about Pacman juicing so why should Pacman? Whether Jmm juiced or not, that doesn't explain why Pacman got outboxed the first 3 times they fought. And it's pretty general consensus Jmm was hitting as hard if not harder than Pacman by the 3rd fight. In the 2nd fight, Jmm nearly lifted Pacman off his feet in the first or 2nd round. It's not like Jmm was some feather fisted fairy, he was knocking out fighters that had never been ko'd before. Plus Jmm ALWAYS fought on Manny's terms. Manny thought he was Mayweather, found out he wasn't when he couldn't outbox Jmm, and went back to being old Manny and went to war, only to get ko'd. Jmm is still too smart and lethal to get ko'd, he's never getting ko'd. Stopped on cuts, premature stoppage, or outboxed, perhaps. Manny tried for 42 rounds and STILL hasn't ko'd Marquez's old ass!:rofl
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    What the hell, should'nt you ban yourself for breaking forum rules?????????

    Where's "The Proffesor" when he's really needed! :lol:
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    No forum rule against mentioning that in the past you have used a stream. ;)

    The rule is against requesting or disseminating - or hinting at requesting or disseminating - streams for events in the present & future (the reasons for which ought to be obvious) and that is all the Prof. goes after.

    Nobody cares about the past.