Wlad vs Shavers

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Haye didn't have great foot speed and his foot work was abysmal. Shavers is a far greater come forward fighter than Haye.
    Haye is only effective on the back foot.
     
  2. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree.But I would not put Tua in that league.
     
  3. lepinthehood

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    Look at the video evidence. Quarry destroyed him, Mercado also got off the deck to give him a beating. These 2 werent fighters with legendary chins, they werent a chuvalo or mcall. Nor did they have the size, power or skills of wladimir. And they didnt clinch as much. :yep
     
  4. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Earnie had a pressure style.Sam was more lay back, he tried to emulate Frazier in the 2nd Wlad fight, but it was not his natural style.That is why I think Earnie poses more of a threat.

    As far as punching power, Sam was a very hard puncher, but Earnie has been voted the hardest puncher of all time by the Ring.Also that is what Ali said and he fought everybody.
     
  5. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Finally!

    Someone with a lick of sense. Shavers would be to Wlad what razors are to an Emo teenager.

    And we're talking Down the road, not across the street!
     
  6. lepinthehood

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    Earnie fought in the 70's where most heavyweights were 6'0-6'2 and 210-220lbs and his best knockouts were ken norton and jimmy young.

    Since then we have had tyson, tua, lewis, w.klitchko, sanders and host other big punchers.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Look at the video evidence of Wlad getting destroyed in the opening round against Sanders.
    Look at Tubbs destroy Sanders in the first round.

    Shavers ran through Norton and he was a better mover and had a better jab than Wlad. Shavers would shatter Wlads glass chin with first contact made.
     
  8. lepinthehood

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    Sanders had more speed and power than quarry. You dont know much, your hate clouds your judgement so much. Mercado destroyed shavers as did Tex Cobb. Even the punch shavers landed on mercado wouldnt of landed on wlad. Because he would have clinched, tired him and out him off there by 4rounds at the very latest. Ron stander destroyed shavers.

    even with all the evidence presented infront of you, you still talk crud.

    Norton had no chin. Norton would get annihilated by wlad. Easily.

    Wlad KO3 Shavers. shavers not landing a meaningful punch.

    Tex cobb, Stander, Mercado, Holmes, quarry, Lyle. All stopped shavers. cobb, stander were cavemen. :yep

    shavers was decisioned by walter santemore, stan johnson , james tillis. Quality oppositon.
    And managed to last the distance against Ali and holmes i wonder how that happened. :think

    the ones who outboxed shavers:
    Santemore - won 20 (KO 8) + lost 23 (KO 11) record 17-10-0
    johnson - won 24 (KO 10) + lost 5 (KO 4) 6-0-0 1 year a pro
    tillis - 21-1 at the time. won 42 (KO 31) + lost 22 (KO 11) career ending record.

    Wladmirs conquerers:
    Brewster - won 35 (KO 30) + lost 6 (KO 2) 33-3-0 vs wlad
    sanders - won 42 (KO 31) + lost 4 (KO 4) 38-2-0 vs wlad
    purrity - won 31 (KO 27) + lost 20 (KO 3) 24-13-1 vs wlad
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really agree that Wlad would be very vulnerable to that kind of monster punching power.

    Earnie was able to connect on Ali and Holmes, do not think Wlad would be an exception.
     
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    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do not understand the comparison.If anything Earnie is more comparable to Brewster.But Earnie was also a much bigger puncher but both had similar intangibles in heart and determination.
     
  11. brb

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    Sillyness.
     
  12. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You disregard the fact that Earnie is the hardest puncher of all time and Wlad has a glass chin.That is hardly a good recipe for Wlad.

    Also Earnie was stopped after taking lots of punishment.Earnie has the better chin and the advantage in intangibles.NowI agree that Wlad is obviously the much better boxer.But Brewster showed that you can overcome that
     
  13. lepinthehood

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    Brewster has an iron jaw. Shavers has no stamina and no jaw. What dont you understand. Are you stupid? Shavers had little defence either.
    Wlad lost to better quality opposition than shavers lost too.
    Wlad has beat better fighters than shavers.
    And shavers best KO is norton, a good fighter with a glass jaw.


    Go watch shavers fight for once.


    Hard punchers always win the fight! :rofl:lol::patsch

    How would shavers land on a 6'6fighter with a 5inch reach advantage.

    Who was the biggest opponent he fought? i guess bugner, bugner was 220-230lb . not a bad knockout of bugner.
     
  14. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You call a guy who went the distance with Ali an Holmes to have no defense and jaw.:rofl

    Well wlad never fought an Ali or Holmes.Earnie had that high guard , pressure style and scary punching power, that all spells trouble for Wlad:rasta
     
  15. dinovelvet

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    Who have you parroted that from?

    Shavers fought 15 rounders at a good pace . Sounds like its you who needs to watch Shavers since it appears you just looked up and watched his losses.