Better Resume: Chris Byrd or Vitali Klitschko???

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Vitali all the way.
    Byrd have what? Vitali beat his ass, he injure himself and thats why Byrd take the win. Such thing like injuries and cuts happen in martial arts.
    Only idi*** who never enter a gym not know that.
    And also shoulder injuries are hard and can take you out for long time if not care for them. After the match doc say that if he wasnt stop this could end his career right there.
    I dont see how that could be a win pick .... And wtf you put a win over old and very well finished Holyfield?
    Vitali beat a lot of undefeated guys in their prime, and was dominant as hell. He was not overrated.
    Tho Wladimir resume is better nad he is very underrated.
    And Dinobot, how can you prove, that Wladimir was 100% ready for Purrity, Sanders and Brewster ?
     
  2. Alien

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    Byrd on resume and proven H2H when he walked Vitali down and made him quit.
     
  3. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for this point of view, i didn't know he was considered that :good
     
  4. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Byrd has the better names on his resume, you can't dispute that.

    Vitali's resume is quite frankly awful and this is coming from a Vitali fan. He simply doesn't have the quality names on his resume, his loss to Lewis adds more to his legacy than all his other wins combined, that fight defines Vitali legacy, he showed in that fight he could not only compete with an ATG but could take him to the brink of defeat.

    This is a case of a fighter being better than their resume. Vitali was unlucky to have suffered from injuries in his prime and when he did return the division was complete garbage apart from him and Wlad so this limited his ability to add good wins to his resume.

    Byrd may have the better resume but barring injury Vitali was the superior fighter. Vitali will never do well in terms of legacy based upon resume, where he excels is in head to head scenarios.
     
  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Byrd won an Olympic medal as a middleweight. He probably could have fought his whole career at light heavyweight but he went where the money was. Probably deserves to be thought of with the same p4p respect as Toney or Jones, except he spent his whole career bulking up to heavyweight instead of cutting down to middleweight like Hopkins, Jones, and Toney did at the beginning of their careers.

    If you think of him as a light heavyweight fighting much bigger opponents in the heavyweight division, then his record is much more impressive than a super heavyweight Wlad handing out beat downs to frequently smaller, less athletic men. If you think that Byrd was naturally a heavyweight, and just on the small side of the division, then he's probably less impressive.
     
  6. RememberingC.S.

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    Whoa, solid reasoning here. So this means that every bum that beat a champion is better than him, according to you. Gotcha. Douglas is better than Tyson. Frazier is better than Ali. Solid reasoning, indeed.
     
  7. RememberingC.S.

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    The fact is that Vitali's kickboxing background never really left him. Hence why he fought tall, stiff, never pushing behind punches with his legs like his brother does.

    Vitali was an arm puncher, except few good straight hands. He also didn't have the style to compete with fighter as big as him. He based his style on leaning backwards to avoid punches, never really moving much, and while this works wonder against short opponents, it is a recipe for disaster against equally big men.

    And let's not forget that he got rocked with a single punch by Corrie Sanders (the same punch didn't even have that much effect on his brother; if Vitali was hit by the same amount of punches and headbutts Wladimir did, he wouldn't have gotten up like his brother kept doing), and that Chisora had him on the verge of collapsing and seriously rocked.

    Also, his style was good against limited "mexican" boxers, not against fast, skilled ones. Notice how all the fast skilled, elusive ones have been beaten without problems by the faster, more technical Wlad, while avoided by Vitali after the Byrd fiasco (Vitali may have been ahead on the scorecards, but wasting enormous amount of energies, and he would have lost in the final rounds).
     
  8. Mr. Iron Chin

    Mr. Iron Chin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Byrd's cv is almost as good as Lennox Lewis's who's apparently a top 5 ATG HW. So the answer is Byrd's.
     
  9. Mr. Iron Chin

    Mr. Iron Chin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bet welching nonce.
     
  10. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    God for a day perhaps, like Buster Douglas, Oliver McCall, and Rahman before him.

    No, I'm not a Genuis. Just smarter than you. Afterall, I own you, some would even say I was your master. :think
     
  11. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    how can you be dominant if you never fight number 1?

    he wasn't dominant ever.
     
  12. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Just like Larry Holmes.

    :think
     
  13. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    fairly solid actually, ali beat frazier twice in rematch and was coming off a 3 year lay off when he lost marginally.



    Tyson was never the same again at all, though he ought to have sought vengeance on douglas.

    both were facing prime opponents.

    wlad is completely different - he had no excuse, he was simply outgunned and destroyed in seconds by a retired shot2shiit nobody in sanders. this has never happened in HW history until wlad came along.
    And as if that wasn't bad enough he ran shiitscared from a rematch with the 38 year old nobody.
    SHuold never have given him a title shot in the first place!
     
  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    larry was number 1 for most of his reign.

    I don't get u.
     
  15. Baby-Faced Bum

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    Vitali is in the unfortunate position of probably having been a better, more capable fighter than his bro and yet his resume is devoid of sparkles!