JMM'S strength training/weight lifting- Was that the reason for KO6?

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  1. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm sorry, but any boxer who works with Heredia loses credibility in me eyes so fast. I know Marquez is innocent till proven guilty, but if it walks like duck, quacks like a duck...then it's a duck.
     
  2. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    That's cuz ydksab.

    Show me evidence of JMM using PEDS. :hi::hi:
     
  3. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What kind of evidence would you like? Evidence based off biology, reputation, or visuals? Biology is the best one, imo.
     
  4. wayne189

    wayne189 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    weight training does not make you a hard puncher, it is something you have or dont have otherwise every fighter would hit the weights non stop and theyd all be knocking each other out
     
  5. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think it was the fact that PAC had a ton of forward momentum and couldnt mitigate the shot at all is the key factor.

    Mauricio Herrera could have KOed someone if he caught them leaping forward at that angle with his feet planted.
     
  6. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    aren't you the one pretending to be a female, unbiased journalist? your credibility is skyrocketing :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  7. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    An almost 40 yr.old boxer trained for 4 months without over training himself ? That's impossible to do without the help of PEDS. :deal

    Plus, Heredia changed his name, Why ?
     
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    :deal
     
  9. MVC!

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    So where's the evidence to convict him. What would you show in court if it was a court case? :hi::hi:
     
  10. Holy Grail

    Holy Grail Boxing Addict Full Member

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    According to the floyd's morons, Alex Ariza has "Ariza shakes" that he gave Manny, but that no longer applies to Floyd when they joined together :rofl:lol::rofl
     
  11. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    What evidence do you have to suggest Floyd drank those shakes, idiot?! :hi::hi:

    Only Manny gulped them down, everyday!!!! :smoke
     
  12. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Biased means showing partiality towards another party, usually do to emotion. I didn't say he was guilty. I'm saying it's incredibly suspicious and there is evidence to show Marquez may have been on steroids. Max Kellerman even said, and he is one of boxing's best ****ysts. I suppose he's biased when he's critical over Marquez's cleanness too?
     
  13. acr347

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    Perception is not a court case. Beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't apply here. In my eyes, it's not just him, But whatever memos ****tails were, I give him credit.., they were very effective. Pac and floyd, as well as the majority are on gear and other 'help' as well.

    Like abuffy said, it's not possible for a 40 year old dude to train 16 weeks for a fight without hormonal enhancement.

    My own personal experience, anabolic supplementation, does wonders strength, speed, and recovery... It's not even close without it.
     
  14. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd could be evening the playing field like JMM did. He is older than Pac and has been boxing for much longer. Father time is catching up to him. So, what's the problem again?
     
  15. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac's head being the size of Barry Bonds is good "evidence to show" Pac may be on steroids too. Have you seen before and after pics of Pac? Normal non steroid heads stop growing around age of 20. Barry Bonds and Lance Armstrong didn't have acne if that's your "evidence"

    You can't fool me Antonio. :rofl:rofl:rofl