JMM'S strength training/weight lifting- Was that the reason for KO6?

I'll cite a scientific study.

Do you understand? Wrist size correlates with how large a person's bone size and over bone structure is. The larger the wrist, the large your "frame" and bones. Which means you can add more muscle, tissue, and overall weight onto the fighter's frame without losing speed, stamina, or power.

Now, in the bone marrow, red blood cells are formed. Red blood cells are responsible for carrying oxygen throughout the body. Now, the bigger the bones, the more bone marrow you have which means more red blood cells will be produced, and the more oxygen is transported to lungs, muscles, tissue, etc which will basically entail how well your stamina is.

Pacquiao has 8 in wrist. That is FREAKY size, on par with heavyweights. Another fighter who was 8 in was Mike Tyson, to put it into perspective. This means...that Pacquiao has a even more freakishly large bone structure. Due to his weirdly large bone structure, he is able to add more muscles and weight onto himself without losing speed, power, or stamina. (this also explains why he was able to jump weight classes so easily).


Now.... Marquez... Marquez is a 40 year old, and in the fight with Pacquiao, he put on a TON of weight. In the 4th fight, he appeared stronger and even faster than ever before!


He only has a wrist size of 6.5, which is the appropriate average for him. It doesn't make sense on how Marquez was able to put that much weight onto his body while still maintaining, and actually increasing, his speed and power. Not even including he was 40 years old, and his body should be going through attrition!

Unlike Pacquiao, who has the freak of nature body to put on the weight, Marquez doesn't. We should've seen a decrease of power, speed, and stamina in that fight- more so than we've ever seen in him, because his body naturally can't carry that much more weight.

And yet, he did. So, this begs the question how? Because it definitely wasn't natural. Well... you look at Heredia, you look at the visible signs of steroids like him breaking out severely. Things start to fall into place.

Once again, he's innocent till proven guilty. But... I got to say....if he went to court, it probably wouldn't be good.

 

http://www.boxinginsider.com/column...an-asks-juan-manuel-marquez-looks-quicker-40/


By Ivan G. Goldman
Max Kellerman didn’t truly assess Juan Manuel Marquez’s hard-fought victory over Mike Alvarado until the HBO cameras were turned off. “I’m always highly cynical when I see a guy who gets faster when he gets older,” he said.

“There’s always that cloud of suspicion with a modern athlete who performs well and maybe differently as he gets to an advanced athletic age. That has certainly followed Marquez in recent years, particularly after the (fourth Manny) Pacquiao fight,” a contest Marquez won with a paralyzing knockout shot in the sixth round.

Kellerman made his remarks when he was interviewed on camera by Radio Raheem Saturday while fans cleared out after the fight at the Forum in Inglewood, California. Marquez, 40, is bigger and stronger, and his punches are at least as precise as they were when I used to watch him perform in his early twenties at the same venue.
If you looked closely at his muscular torso Saturday, you could see it was spotted with acne that struck him in middle age. Acne, which could occur naturally, can be a sign of steroid abuse.

We can’t know for sure why Kellerman waited until the HBO cameras were turned off before he made these remarks. He night not know himself. But the object of his suspicions was lining himself up for the possibility of another big HBO pay-per-view outing against Pacquiao.
Max spoke at the end of a hard night, when many of us are prone to let our hair down, when hard truths and nagging questions spill forth as though they have a will of their own. The interview was on youtube.com.

The pre-fight reality programming on HBO for Pacquiao-Marquez 4 in December 2012 showed Marquez doing squats with weights that looked the size of Volkswagens. Lots of men in their late thirties can lift such weights, but they don’t all report the next day for roadwork and a full sequence of intensive training worthy of a world-class prizefighter.
Marquez’s record against Pacquiao is 1-2-1. Each contest was controversial in some way. The first one, fought ten years ago in the featherweight division, ended in a draw because one judge, Burt Clements, admitted later he scored the first round 10-7 because he didn’t know he could score it 10-6 . Pacquiao knocked Marquez down three times in the round. Had Clements scored it correctly the outcome would have been a split decision for Pacquiao that might not have triggered a series.

Many boxing trainers believe that under normal conditions, when a fighter pumps himself up with heavy weights, he’ll lose both conditioning and speed in exchange for strength and bulk. But on Saturday Marquez’s punches snapped with precision as he worked up and down against valiant Alvarado, 33. Marquez seemed to get stronger as the fight went on.

It was before that last Pacquiao contest that Marquez began working with strength and conditioning coach Angel “Memo” Heredia, who began using an alias after testifying in numerous PEDs cases as a prosecution witness. Prosecutors let him walk away after he ratted out former associates, including Victor Conte. Heredia repeatedly admitted under oath that he supplied PEDs to numerous athletes in track and field and other sports and that he specialized in figuring out how to beat testing for PEDs.

Conte, who served less than a year for his crimes, is, like Heredia, back in business, but they are definitely not pals. Both say they now work clean.
After Marquez weighed in for Alvarado, Conte tweeted, “Wonder if we may start 2 see betting odds suddenly change b4 future fights based upon pimples observed on a boxer at the weigh-in?”
Heredia gravitated more heavily into boxing after his PEDs reputation made him a marked man. Boxing, unlike team sports, has no league that can impose discipline against individual athletes. But Heredia’s reputation works two ways because none of the athletes he helped pump up with banned chemicals ever tested positive.

The California athletic commission, which supervised the bout on Saturday, has caught numerous athletes, mostly cage fighters, with illegal substances in their systems and handed out suspensions and fines. Still, the commission tests fall well below rigid standards imposed by VADA (Voluntary Anti-Doping Association), the entity formed by Dr. Margaret Goodman, a former ring physician for the Nevada commission. Those tests cost thousands of dollars.

Marquez, asked why he’s looked better in recent performances than he did some 15 years ago, has indignantly denied any impropriety, pointed out that he tests clean, and threatened to sue accusers. Kellerman would no doubt agree that Marquez acted as an innocent man would.

 

All pac fans have huge wrists from rubbing one out every few minutes when their Manny screensaver comes up. That dispels your big wrist theory.

Funny, JMM has ALWAYS had a higher KO% than Pac.

 

Not against Pacquioa. It took JMM 4 fights to KD and KO Pac ( I wonder why, Heredia ? ) :hi:

 

As I said, JMM leveled the playing field. On equal terms, JMM KTFO every time. You guys are whining because JMM used supplements like Pacquiao :rofl:rofl:rofl

I even said that before the fourth fight happened. You can't fool MarkQ.

 

Where's your proof against Pacquiao ? :rofl

 

Justin Fortune is a known proponent of PEDs. As you and Roach said, Ariza is very suspicious too. Guess who were Pac's S&C (Steroids & Chemicals) coach?

If you put Ariza, Fortune and Heredia in room and you had to randomly pick one as an S&C coach, you're getting PEDs.

 

Great post, but at this level, do you think Marquez is the only one doping? also his weight I believe was lower, slightly as many pointed out in defending him, but in my opinion that's because it was a recomp, meaning he lost fat, gained muscle, and the scale weight remained relatively the same.

 

people saying hes on roids are scared of his power. but the true is pac has barely ko anyone at welter. his power is more due to his illegal hand wraps like witnessed in the de la hoya and margarito fight

 

Fortume and Ariza ? atsch Give me a link that it says they are PED dealers. :hi:

 

Ask Freddie. He's alluded to it many times in interviews. Freddie knows what's going on between Pac and his S&C coaches.

 

But look at Marquez vs Bradley. Lot's of emphasis on weight training, but he was completely outboxed.

He also recently tore his knee, which is probably the result of too many barbell squats and Olympic lifts.

 

Where are you getting your boxing news ? From your ass ? :rofl

Actually, Roach said, he didn't know what Ariza is giving Pacquiao. :hi:

 

The question is where are you getting your info from after you say things like this. It's obvious you make thing sup

 

After Marquez weighed in for Alvarado, Conte tweeted, “Wonder if we may start 2 see betting odds suddenly change b4 future fights based upon pimples observed on a boxer at the weigh-in?”


This is funny. Las Vegas Boxing Betting ODDS now will depend on how many pimples/acne the boxer/boxers has. :rofl:rofl:rofl