Wlad>>>Lewis

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  1. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He got beat, but Lewis got destroyed much worse against Rahman and McCall.
     
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    MN_Logan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Also, one of these guys knows how to fight on the inside and even brawl when needed while the other panics and hangs on for dear life anytime an opponent gets past his jab.:rofl
     
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    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That left hook says otherwise.
     
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    attaboi Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    If Rahman is an overrated bum, then what is Sanders? you know the connection between Rahman and Sanders.
    By the way Oliver Mccall also beat beat Larry Holmes, though an old Larry Holmes.
     
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    They're comparable that's my point McCall and Rahman are about the same level as Brewster and Sanders. Yet all of the Lewis fans and Wlad bashers try to make it seem like they were world beaters when they in fact were anything but. Lewis got badly KO'd by bums and Wlad got tired and TKO'd after multiple KD's by bums. Just pointing a hypocritical double standard.
     
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    And don't forget, McCall was trained by Emmanuel Steward to exploit a very specific weakness of Lennox at the time before the fight. One of the greatest trainers to ever grace the sport training someone to exploit a weakness.
     
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    What was that weakness? A china chin?

    No disrespect to Steward, but I could of came up with the "punch him in the face" strategy.
     
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    It had to do with Lennox putting himself off balance and dropping his left when he threw a straight from a certain angle. It wasn't just "punch him in the face.". If beating Lennox Lewis was as simple as punching him in the face he would have lost to Tua, Briggs, Vitali, Holyfield and a ****-ton of others.
     
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    It seemed to work for Rahman as well.
     
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    MN_Logan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He lost to Rahman because he acted like a ****ing idiot during his training camp and got walked down and smacked around the ring when the actual fight came. Maybe you should take yourself and your extra chromosome over to a "Deontay Wilder: GOAT" thread.
     
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    Why don't you take the Lewis sack out of your mouth and admit that he didn't have much of a beard. What annoys me about you Lewis fans is that you always pick Lewis to win by "decapitation" or something stupid like that in any H2H discussion, without acknowledging his flaws.

    He was very beatable.
     
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    :deal
     
  13. attaboi

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    Very few trainers could have came up with that "punch"
    You have to understand, Steward had been watching Lewis since way before the 88 Olympics. Manny probably scouted Lewis more than any boxing manager, promoter or trainer at that point in time. At over 6'5 ft Manny saw a potential Tommy Hearns in Lewis and the obvious flaws in Lennox Lewis's game besides the suspect chin that trainers of Lewis previous opponents couldn't see. Watch ESPN ringside the best of Lennox Lewis as Manny broke down the cracks that he saw in Lewis's armor. He prepared Oliver for that particular punch because he knew Oliver couldn't technically beat Lewis. There is a reason why Steward left Oliver right after the fight.
     
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    Are you talking about McCall's problems with drug abuse in that last statement?

    I heard McCall say that he was going to look for the short right hand between rounds when Steward was going on about using a hook to keep Lewis off-balance. I don't know the whole story, but it sounded like McCall saw a hole in Lewis' game.

    I also don't see what was so magical about that punch. You make it sound like it was something from the Jedi.
     
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    No doubt Lewis was beatable, but I have a hard time envisioning any boxer past or present beating a well prepared and focused Lennox Lewis. At 6'5ft with that right hand of he's, in addition with his skill set, Lewis was a bad man. The difference between him and Wladimir is that if Lewis saw you as a threat, he brought the fight to you and was willing to out doug you in the trenches. I don't think the man had a glass chin, however I think he had a sweetspot.