The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    You're still making excuses. You're preparing for a loss. Pathetic fan.
     
  2. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    He didn't "rush" to hire him lol
     
  3. BoxedOut

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    stop twisting history. did pac refuse testing? never. the only problem that you can argue with is the cutoff date. for what reason? GO WATCH THE MORALES POST-FIGHT TV INTERVIEW WITH PAC DETAILING HOW GETTING BLOOD TAKEN FROM HIM A DAY BEFORE THE FIGHT MADE HIM WEAKER, PSYCHOLOGICALLY. if Pac were doping, he could have had positive results then, isnt it? since he was unaware a test was to be taken.

    what is floyd there to fear, then? if i were floyd, i would've been okay with it. heck, $5M additional from Pac testingg positive is still money. so what's the problem?
     
  4. acr347

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    Yeah, complete turn around. Well, he's being real. it's weird to hear him say, 'I think my guy can pull it off or win' paraphrasing, I know.

    Not the same Freddy, we got used too.
     
  5. abuffy

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    Wow. Freddie said today that Pacquiao no longer has his same killer instinct. He thinks it left when everything with his family got happy again (no more cheating, gambling) and maybe it lowered his testosterone. He feels Pacquiao showed displays and flashes of it against Algieri, but would resort back to coasting and winning on points.


    Really surprising. I think it has more to do with competition. If Pacquiao feels like he's losing, he'll amp it up..and if he's winning easy, he'll coast. Still shocking to hear that from Roach. Is he trying to use reverse psychology or something? and make floyd underestimate manny??? Haha it's just such a flip from a month ago when he was saying Pacquiao would knock him out easy.
     
  6. pugs

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    No. Pac is worried about the news of Floyd failing the USADA test that was hidden and positive samples destroyed. Pac should have demendad VADA instead of USADA but it means floyd would never fight pacquiao ever.
     
  7. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is Floyd ok with 14 days cutoff and not with 21 when they would be tested after the fight?
     
  8. darcus112

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    Was thinking the exact same thing lol. Getting the excuses in early. It really is pathetic. You just know if Floyd wins we'll hear endless excuses by Manny fans. It's inevitable. :roll:
     
  9. gqsneezer

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    I honestly gave him the benefit of the doubt, all I was asking for was the source so I can read what else was said. Everything I came across reported that Pac had no problem with the testing and that he even suggested the $5M fine. No where did it state that Pac recently demanded the fine on top of whatever they have already agreed on. It's one thing to theory craft on how those 2 will fair in the ring but it's another thing to make illogical conclusions. It's obvious markq is trying to find reasons to discredit Pac, and when he can't find any, he twists what Manny's says to support his view. As a fan of both Pac and Floyd, I wouldn't use the term Pac**** and fIomo lightly, but when you have to make $hit up to discredit Pac you're definitely a fIlomo. :think:rofl
     
  10. pugs

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    We all know that this is not the beast version of pacquiao who obliterated hatton and cotto. Pac was already ktfo6 by jmm but this would still be a big win for floyd if he signs to fight and if he beats him.

    The same way, if pac beats floyd, joyboys would say that floyd has no legs anymore and struggled with caveman maidana.
     
  11. acr347

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    Gotta be reverse psych. I don't see Freddy, pulling a 'well we are gonna try our best, but ummmm.... My guy just doesn't have it anymore'. Guess he's trying to soften floyd up, even if this were all true, Freddie is not gonna say this, especially right at the beginning of camp . He knows this fight is going down, and I don't see him as an excuse maker pre fight, or even post fight.
    This is the biggest fight ever, he's gonna be more than motivated, this is legacy for both of them, as well as pacs own aspirations in Philippine politics.
     
  12. JV28

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    Is it just me or is Freddy's Parkinsons getting worse? He had a hard time speaking compared to before.
     
  13. abuffy

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    He sounds better to me! He did this special treatment, forgot what's it's called, a year or so ago, and his speaking has got a lot better. It was really bad like 2 years ago.
     
  14. abuffy

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    I watched more interviews with Freddie.

    So, he says Pac's killer instinct isn't the same, but thinks it will come back if Manny fights Mayweather. Gotta agree. How more motivated can you be fighting the guy who is #1 P4P, slandered and defamed your reputation and name, and you're the underdog against??? It's like when Pac was against ODLH, in the sense of being the underdog!
     
  15. Typhoon

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    oh come on, Freddie is a the biggest trash talker in boxing and uses mind games.

    Manny's killer instinct has always been there. Against JMM, he was vicious and was beating up JMM until a careless mistake proved to be his downfall. it could be said that he was being too offensive in that fight... a real killer.

    Then he has fought Rios, Bradley and Algieri. Rios has never being knocked out in his career so Manny not knocking him out, means little. He did put an a$$ whooping on Rios though. Bradley, is a defensive fighter who is difficult; i'm not sure the 09-11 Manny Pacquiao would've done any better. As far as Algieri is concerned, he was running away from Pacqioa all day, yet still tasted the canvas on numerous occasions. Pacman looked good in that fight.

    Pacquiao's killer instinct became legendary when he beat ODLH, Hatton, Cotto but these fighters could've easily been overwhelmed by today's Pacqiao. None of them are considered defensive fighters, they like to trade punches and good match-ups for Manny. Remember, when Manny fought Clottey, he didn't look as good, had he lost his killer instinct back then? no, clottey is a defensive fighter who doesn't risk.

    Freddie just talking, playing mind games. Now, on a more serious note, Freddie did mention that fight is dangerously close and time is running out. Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless also sounded very pessimistic that fight hasn't been agreed upon yet, they both think time is running out or has run out. There are a lot of things that need to be set in motion for such a big fight and with every passing day, hope is being lost.

    Floyd needs to announce in next couple of days, no joke. I didn't quite like his demeanor in that latest interview, seemed a bit annoyed which isn't a good sign.
     
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