Roy Jones Vs today's best fighters, across 6 divisions.

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  1. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    2002, a poll of MURICAN fans was taken to see which fight they would most like to see that year. More than 65% said Jones / Dariusz.

    " I got robbed on a different continent to the ones both I and Dariusz live on 14 years ago, so I ain't leavin Murica "
     
  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Seriously, how many more times?

    And you say that I have learning difficulties?

    :lol:


    1. What happened after Roy's contract had expired?

    2. How can you ignore the statements Kerry Davis made?

    3. He went on to have disgraceful fights against Harmon and Gonzalez?

    Dariusz fought those two guys after Roy had easily beaten them.

    4. Roy didn't lie or trick anyone.

    5. Keep throwing me your hateful nonsense, and I'll keep smashing it out of the park.


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  3. Foxy 01

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  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    I just told you what happened after the contract expired they signed him to a 3 year 9 fight deal and were fed up with him so HBO decided TO NO LONGER OFFER LONG TERM DEALS TO ANY FIGHTER. Can. You. Understand. That? It is not my opinion or what I am 'thinking' it is a Fact. It happened. The Clinton Woods fight was the last straw. HBO did not want that fight. It was a disgrace. So, mysteriously Roy has a circus fight with Ruiz then he fights Tarver who HBO did approve of and he has a tough fight then gets KOed in the next one and then gets KOed against Glen Johnson. See what happened when he had to stop fighting the Glen Kelly, Rich Frazier, Otis Grant, Rich Hall, Clinton Woods type fighters? He got savagely KOed.


    Roy lied to HBO and they not only DID NOT renew his guaranteed deal they would not have those deals for anyone. Roy literally screwed over every other HBO house fighter :lol::rofl
     
  5. Foxy 01

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    I would say Rico's is the hateful but the nonsense is entirely yours, and IT is getting smashed out of the park.

    The best you have actually come up with is Kerry Davis, a guy holding a contract agreeing to PAY Jones money.

    Or 3 tame journalists asking him even tamer questions.

    It doesn't get much more nonsensical than that, tbh.

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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your posts are becoming weaker.

    I always address all of your points, but you can't address mine.

    Roy did not avoid Darius and Hopkins.

    Read Kerry Davis and Dan Rafael's comments.

    Or are you going to be selective again?
     
  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    There really isn't any reason to discuss this with you if you believe that. Roy went to great lengths to have DM's name banned from HBO broadcasts but he didn't avoid him? Who does that? Who writes letters to ABC sanctioning bodies asking them to change who his mandatory is so he doesn't have to fight them? Can you name me any other fighters other than Roy who have gone to such great lengths to avoid fights they actually wrote letters to the alphabet orgs? :lol::rofl:patsch

    This is getting embarrassing for you.
     
  8. Super Hans

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    Floyd Mayweather v Roy Jones- fight gets cancelled when Mayweather demands Roy takes the test and Roy fails it. :yep
     
  9. Rico Spadafora

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    And Jones fought Hill after DM beat him and then preceded to fight for the trinket IBF and WBA belts after they were stripped from DM like a rat would look for a piece of cheese in a dumpster. :lol::rofl

    Why even fight for the IBF and WBA belts if you are unwilling or 'reluctant' (HBO's words not mine) to fight the rightful owner of those belts and the guy that happens to be THE champion of the division. What was the point? :lol::rofl
     
  10. Mind Reader

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    Says the guy that doesn't thinks Toney stopped Holyfield, and the right hand that Ruiz hit Jones with in the first round was a chest shot..

    DELUSIONAL.:rofl

    There is no point in debating anything about Roy with you.. As you are one of the biggest haters on the forum..And even deny facts and change outcomes of fights to suit..

    You have been on here for years saying the same thing over and over.. Guess what? It doesn't make it true.. You are wasting your time.
     
  11. Loudon

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    1. I've never said that Roy would have beaten Ali like Rico claims.


    2. A case could certainly be made for Roy beating Hagler and Robinson etc.

    Why not?

    Roy was bigger, faster, stronger, and just as skilled as Marvin Hagler. Roy's speed would have caused him a variety of problems.

    Tommy Hearns was a true great, but he was vulnerable at MW and above. If he'd have landed flush, yes, it would have been over. But would he have been able to?

    A young version of Roy against a MW version of Robbo, would have been an incredible fight. Neither guy was at their absolute peak at MW, and it would have been extremely close, based on each fighters skills and speed.


    3. Roy's quality of opposition at MW, does not mean that he couldn't have beaten the fighters mentioned.
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Well I guess I shouldn't expect anything less from someone who thinks James Toney was a savage puncher and that is how he 'stopped' Holyfield when:

    Holyfield got up and was ready to continue

    The referee was going to let him continue

    Don Turner stopped the fight

    so in the dishonest sense that you are trying to portray it (that Toney's power 'stopped' Holyfield) no that simply did not happen as anyone that watched the fight could see.

    There is a clear pic of the Ruiz punch and it is mostly on Roy's upper chest area with a tad on his Chin. If you want to tell me that proves Roy has a Chin then be my guest. Everyone knows different because he couldn't even handle a punch from Lou Del Valle. Not to even get into Ruiz and his KO drought leading up to the Jones fight but I am sure that had nothing to do with Jones fighting him and not Lennox Lewis. Your friend Loudon told me that Jones HAD to fight Ruiz since he beat Holyfield :lol::rofl:patsch Never knew there was such a thing as an option-mandatory fight but he tends to let his mental disorder get the better of him at times. Nothing tied Jones to fighting Ruiz over Byrd, Wlad, Sanders, Lennox, Brewster or any of the other champions around that time frame.
     
  13. Mind Reader

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    Lying again Rico..

    You have been shown and told many times that DM VACATED the IBF for two reasons. He didn't want to fight Guthrie in a months time, and Kohl stated Guthrie was a King fighter and wouldn't deal with him anyway.

    At least be fair when you post.
     
  14. Loudon

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    I don't have to tell you who Roy beat at MW that was better than GGG.

    When doing a fantasy fight, you carefully an*lyse each fighters attributes.

    Roy only had ONE fight at HW, but it still gives me an idea of some of the fighters who he could have beaten at that weight.

    He had NO fights as a CW up until recently. But so what? I'd still have picked him to have beaten the CW's of the early 00's.

    Also, who the hell has GGG beaten that tells you that he could have beaten Roy?

    We can look back and assess what Roy did in his career, and who he beat. But we can't do that with GGG yet.

    I don't have to say that Toney was better than Ward either.

    Who has Kovalev beaten who was on Roy's level?

    You see, it works both ways.

    Give me a stylistic breakdown.
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

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    Did Jones ever defend one of his belts in a months time? Why hold DM to that unrealistic standard? If it was so easy then for sure Jones could have done it right? Especially with the line of guys he fought between 1998 and 2002.