A question to Roy Jones Jnr fans about his win over J Toney

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    A question to Roy Jones Jnr fans about his win over J Toney

    Please read the questions before answering

    Roy clearly beat Toney in that SMW title fight, but I would like to know why so many rate that win as high as they do, when you consider that Toney had

    - drawn with S Williams
    - been taken to a SD by M Sosa
    - was behind against M Nunn before the finish
    - was taken to a SD by R Johnson
    - drawn with M McCallum
    - had a SD with Tiberi where some felt he lost
    - a MDec with McCallum

    His fight before Jones was a tough fight where one judge had him behind before the finish.

    So why do the fans rate this win so high?
    Is it because on paper Toney was undefeated even though there are some who feel he lost the Tiberi fight?

    So was it the 0 that many feel isnt important as to why you rate the win so high?
     
  2. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    Toney is the guy who more than any other boxer in history I've always questioned why he's is rated so highly.
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think it often comes down to hype and being recognised Hans.
    You have great fighters who arent known and they get overlooked.
    Some years ago I did a thread asking fans on ESB, how they thought a fight would go between Bradley and Provodnikov (it was years before the fight happened). Many laughed at the thread and then years later they fought and it was as I predicted a tough close fight. Now Provodnikov is known, the same people who mocked would pretend otherwise
     
  4. Kid Cincinnati

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  5. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    toney would destroy calslappy.

    possibly by late stoppage. joe has nowhere near the skills to compete.
     
  6. conraddobler

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    he had a draw with Mike Mcallum? Shameful. Shameful!

    Toney was 1 or 2 pound for pound when Roy beat him in a way that nobody ever beat him. Toney's record was at the time: 46-0.

    Of course, "bailey", not really being able to appreciate boxing skill, doesn't "get" Toney. You don't see his brilliance because you lack that ability to detect it. You're talent-blind which is why you rely on a relentless ****ysis of Boxrec.
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who you talking to?
    Trust me, when you have made as many posts as I have, I wouldnt have the time for an alt, but still flattering all the same.
    Now Kid, please try and answer. Do you think it was Toneys 0?
     
  8. Super Hans

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    Good point bailey.

    Last year when people was saying Brook had beaten nobody, I knew for a fact Rafael Jackiweiz who Brook beat easily was better than Porter, hence I knew Brook was gonna win.

    But because people need Max Kellerman and Ring Magazine to tell them what's what and neither had ever mentioned Rafa Jackiwiez, but talk about domestic level Malignaggi and Alexander all the time who Porter beat they thought Porter was the more proven of the two fighters. :nono
     
  9. HerolGee

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    46-0 but with real fighters, cool, beats calslappy.
     
  10. Boxing Prospect

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    Toney had a ton of ability...but his consistency was an issue...
     
  11. Super Hans

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    BerolGee brings up 'Zaggers in a thread that's has nothing to do with him.

    Which one of your heroes did he ruin? Of your 7,219 posts 7,215 have mentioned Calzaghe. Are you Jeff Lacy's number one fan :lol::lol:
     
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You really said it all there. It was the 0 and a magazine mythical rating. That sums you up nicely.
    I am not mentioning Toneys mythical P4P rating. I am mentioning the actual fights and results, like the Tiberi result. Still you have tried rewriting history and say 46-0. Theres only one real 46-0.
    Have you seen the tough fight Toney had before he fought Jones?

    So you rate the win because of Toneys 0, is that correct?
     
  13. Super Hans

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    No offense but your opinion is null and void being that your a Broner fanboy. :hi:
     
  14. Super Hans

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    Look everyone. He talking about Calzaghe, once again, in a thread that's nothing to do with him.


    Is anyone shocked about this? :think
     
  15. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes there are many uneducated posters on ESB and sadly I have asked a simple question and instead of reading the points and answering, some have started to litter this great thread in a defensive manner because they cannot give a sensible answer to the questions. Im just glad that a good educated poster like yourself has graced these pages