Roy Jones Vs today's best fighters, across 6 divisions.

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    And who has Kov fought with the speed, skill and power of Roy?

    Nobody!
     
  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Byrd was the IBF champion. Wlad/Sanders/Brewster held the WBO around this time frame.
     
  3. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Don't duck my question with a question..

    I want you to explain to all of us what you see in round one at the times I have marked for you.

    This should be good.:lol:
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Thank you.

    I'll give anyone an honest, objective debate.

    :good
     
  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    You told me that Roy's power made Ruiz respect him and stand in the middle of the ring like an oaf. I told you that Nady threatened as early as the 2nd round to take points. What did Nady say?
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again, why should Roy have gone to Germany to put the three main belts on the line, when he'd seen Dariusz deliberately get Roch disqualified?

    You're an intelligent guy.

    So why are you completely ignoring this:

    http://youtu.be/jjfhvs5vidI

    ?


    It's easy for you to sit at home and say what he should have done.

    But would you honestly have gone to Germany if YOU had been in Roy's shoes, with his reservations?

    Forget about Dariusz being stripped. That was awful, but it had NOTHING to do with Roy.

    Rightly or wrongly, Roy had ALL of the main belts during negotiations.

    The unified champ does NOT have to travel.

    If Dariusz was so aggrieved about what had happened, why wasn't he booking the next available flight to the U.S. to sign the contract to try and get his old belts back?
     
  7. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    roy would have a tougher time at smw, since the division has increased in depth since the 1990s when it was packed with weaklings who couldn't make it in other divisions.
     
  8. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I am not even going to get into that until you answer my question..

    Come on, I put in the effort to make it as clear as possible for you..

    Now please, tell us what you saw at the times I had marked for you.. And let me know if you still think it was a head or a chest shot.
     
  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    So you're telling me that HBO would have let Roy publicly announce that they'd offered seven figure sums to numerous guys, if it hadn't have been true?

    Please!
     
  10. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I am surprised you are riding Rico's nuts...

    Didn't you know that like myself he is a "Murican?" Even from the south too...:yep

    He is also a fan of DR. Vitali Klitschko, the man that sent Mighty Lennox running scared into retirement.:lol::deal

    Be careful who's nut you put into your mouth boy.:yep
     
  11. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    You are trying it on yet again.

    I am not, and have not quoted any of HBO's complaints, or compliments. I am talking about the PRINCIPAL of corporations endorsing their products.

    Sometimes their product frustrates them so much they are compelled to admit publicly they are frustrated.

    However in the main they will lie, spin, con, cheat, anything to stand by and endorse their product.

    Now whether you like it or not, that is all Jones was. A product OWNED by HBO by way of a CONTRACT.

    I am not interested in your naive " if you take that part you have got to take that part nonsense "

    I've explained it to you above, and it has been explained to you by Rico. HBO ended up so disillusioned with their product they changed the conditions of said contract so it was less favourable to Jones, and more favourable to them.

    Much like a CEO of say a car company. He isn't going to say " fvck this I wish we'd never designed and built this piece of sh*t " and s**** them all.

    He recalls the cars sold, makes modifications, and then tells everyone that it is a lovely car again.

    GEDDIT?:good
     
  12. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Rico Spadafora,

    Once again, you have avoided my question.

    What a surprise.


    HBO weren't fed up of Roy, they were fed up of the circumstances.

    The Woods fight was the last straw? He was a mandatory AFTER Hopkins had priced himself out of a rematch.

    He then went on to fight Ruiz and Tarver.

    Again, Roy fought on HBO over THIRTY times. What does that say to you?

    How can a mandatory be a disgrace?

    How can Clinton Woods have been a disgrace?

    Your posts on the other hand, are a disgrace.


    So now you're telling me that as soon as Roy stepped up against Tarver and Johnson, he lost?

    So we'll just ignore the following facts:

    He beat better fighters than those guys.

    He was 35, and had fought over 50 times, across five weight classes.

    He'd been up to HW and back, and he'd slowed down, which is why Buddy McGirt had said that he thought he was on the slide.

    ?

    :lol:

    How did he lie to them?

    So he lied about wanting to fight Dariusz, and Kerry Davis covered for him, right?

    Did he pay Davis to lie to the media?

    You are hilarious!


    Are you going to acknowledge my Dan Rafael link, or are you going to ignore it like you've ignored my others?


    :lol:
     
  13. Dos Huevos

    Dos Huevos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Amazing how emotionally invested so many are in some manufactured Murican fraud like RJJ.
     
  14. Dos Huevos

    Dos Huevos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just move to Pensicola and blow him already. :patsch
     
  15. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    My evidence and logic isn't getting knocked out of the park, it's just conveniently getting ignored.

    There's a huge difference.


    Three tame journalists?

    Ron Borges along with Larry Merchant, were Roy's BIGGEST critics all throughout his career.

    You cannot pick and choose your evidence.

    You have to look at all of the evidence objectively.

    It's the only way.


    How is it nonsensical?

    Kerry Davis was the VP for HBO and there's direct quotes of how he tried to land HBO the fight.

    Larry Merchant supported Roy and verified that they had tried to make him other fights.

    Frankie Liles's former manager Jack O'Halloran has also clarified what was said in the Brannon interview, stating that Frankie blew a GREAT opportunity to fight Roy.

    There's also lots of other evidence to hand, with quotes from respected members of the boxing world.

    But it will never be enough for you guys.


    The only thing that is nonsensical, is your ability to just ignore everything that I put forward.