Lennox Lewis. Does he have some holes in his legacy?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Why didn't Wlad Or Vitali face Ruiz then? He was rated for 5 consecutive years when they were?
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    The difference between Dino and the rest of us is that his hate for the Klits and Lennox blinds him.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where does old Foreman and Moorer fit in there? Neither was a special fighter. Old George is one of the few (perhaps the only one) who got a second shot at the title fresh off a loss, and Moorer is probably the only champion to lose his title to such an opponent.

    As for Bowe, Holy lost 2 out of 3 and the one fight where both were in top shape. His win was the only close fight of the three as well.

    And prime Vitaly is a better win in my book than post-prison Mike.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

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    No Lennox has the best HW resume in boxing history, American bias discriminates against him.

    The only challenge he didn't make was Ibeabuchi and by the time the fight was ready Ike was in prison.

    Utter BS Holyfield/Bowe/Moorer/Tyson ran from Lennox to the hills from '92 until '99 when Holyfield finally stepped up.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    Holyfield was seen as avoiding challenges when he took on Cooper, Foreman and Holmes instead of Rudduck and Lennox. A shame he wasted some of his peak on those 3 really.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    Remember Golota who Lennox put away in record time, he beat Ruiz and Byrd past his prime. Lennox was paid by King not to defend against them.

    Lennox beat Vitali at nearly 38 way past his prime. If you consider Vitali great you have to consider this a great win.

    Why are aspergers sufferers like you usually racist and illogical? You'd think you'd at least manage to be logical. Maybe your lack of empathy makes it easier for you to be dishonest?
     
  7. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think it's fair:

    1) Holyfield was scheduled to fight Tyson, not Cooper. And Tyson beat Ruddock clearly twice

    2) Foreman and Holmes were legends from the past, a big money fights

    3) Lewis became major player only after he beat Ruddock in late 92, and Holyfield lost the title 3 weeks later. No one thought at that time that Holyfield avoided Lewis.
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    It was how it was considered at the time, none of those men earned their title shots

    1) So why not face Rudduck instead, ok it was a homecoming fight, 1 fight where you don't take the

    2) Yea but they weren't top contenders so why not face Rudduck

    3) No Lennox was considered a future HW Champ and a top 4 HW from 91 onwards. Rudduck was no1 contender after Tyson was imprisoned.

    You are right Holmes/Foreman were good paydays and less risk so it made business sense. Holyfield isn't scared of a fight either. But he did hold the title up for 3 fights, actually 4 fights BECAUSE HE SHOULD HAVE DEFENDED AGAINST RUDDUCK/LENNOX AND NOW BOWE who did not earn his title shot either.
     
  9. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It actually can be made on every great HW's reign:good

    I don't believe for a second that Maloney wanted Lewis to fight Holyfield as early as 91', they would have earned far less money than say after getting more wins and taking #1 challenger position.

    Holmes wasn't manadatory challenger but he earned title shot by beating top-5 HW undefeated Ray Mercer.

    Foreman was a superstar coming off 24-0 (23 streak) with wins over ****ey, Cooper and (like it or not) top-10 HW by the Ring rankings Adilson Rodrigues.

    Lewis-Holyfield speculation isn't fair as of 1991, neither fighter's team would get the money they wanted.
     
  10. Mr. Iron Chin

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    Wlad
    Ruiz
    Byrd
    Schulz
    Sanders
    RJJ
    Foreman
    Ibeabuchi
    Hide
    Williams
    Moorer
    Old Larry Holmes

    A shame none of these fights happened for various reasons. Still a top 10 ATG HW all the same.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

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    Good list, but You forgot to add your mother, after she's been on a binder :rofl:rofl
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    jesus, dumbfukks… no fighter gets the time, prime or window of opportunity to fight every flash in the pan during their career… now get back to your video gaming.
     
  13. Bokaj

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    Personally, I feel that only Wlad and Ibeabuchi of those two would have made for exciting opponents. But you never know of course.
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    Yea '91 was a better time to take on Rudduck as he was ranked above Lennox then.

    I think Maloney would have taken the fight if he got a shot, he pushed through fighters quicker than other British promoters like ******

    You can justify Foreman/Holmes/Cooper as opponents and they weren't that bad as individual defences but when you think about it as 2 years of HW fights you can see why Holyfield was seen as uninspiring in his first reign. Part of the problem was Tyson going to prison ofcourse as he certainly would have made that fight.
     
  15. Halfordscream

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    No, no, you do know. You are entirely correct.

    Those are the only fights that offered anything either to Lewis' legacy or were certain to provide entertainment and competitive value.

    The rest were negligible ... many if not most of the rest were almost worthless (i.e., old men, too small, or mediocrity) fights.