Gerald McClellan v Georges Carpentier

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  1. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Both at their optimal weights. 15 rounds. 18 foot ring. Ref from August 3rd, 1958.
     
  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I'm going with Carp... nah, McClellan.
     
  3. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Interesting fight. What made you come up with it?
     
  4. janitor

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    I guess that Carpintier would be the safer pick, but part of that is because we didn't find out everything about McClellan, for reasons that you will well understand.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    McClellan early or Carpentier late, probably McClellan within 5 though
     
  6. the_bigunit

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    Carpentier and his right hand could crack, sure. But he couldn't bang. I'm taking a McClellan stoppage through the middle rounds.
     
  7. kingfisher3

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    gerald for me too, but since dempsey couldn't take him out early im going mid-late, or even just pounding out a decision.
     
  8. Seamus

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    For what it's worth (and you may not think much), McClellan was pretty much the same size as Dempsey… and also Dempsey took him out in 3 1/2 rounds which is pretty early (especially considering he was instructed to carry him)...
     
  9. kingfisher3

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    i was going to mention dempsey might have carried him, not saying he didn't but its not certain is it?

    for some reason i thought he survived longer tho, been a while since i watched it, my mistake.

    im not that much more of a dempsey fan than you tbh, but his power was shown against bigger men than mclellan's
     
  10. Seamus

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    In all truth, I am a Dempsey fan. He just needs to be kept in perspective, both for the era he fought in and the quality of his reign.

    In regards to McClellan, we have no idea how his power translated upwards. And I would say that it wasn't so much that Dempsey's power translated upward but his speed was deadly to the larger, slower dirigibles who were the big heavies of the day.
     
  11. janitor

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    I think that Carpintier did have top end power for a light heavyweight, though he may have been limited in other areas.
     
  12. kingfisher3

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    doesn't dirigible mean hot air balloon/zepplin? if the general forum existed 100 years ago that post would've fitted right in. i do agree speed was his most effective attribute tho (vs willard at least).
     
  13. PowerPuncher

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    For what it's worth McClellan is said to have beaten Tony Tucker up in sparring
     
  14. Flea Man

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    I think G-Man is overrated, but he'd decimate Carpentier in a few seconds.
     
  15. kingfisher3

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    a hard punching 180lb man could hurt someone of any size, so i can believe the sparring story.

    i didn't say dempsey hit that much harder than gerald, but that he proved it vs bigger men, which is true(though admittidly irrelevant to fighting the samller man in this matchup).

    i just watched the dempsey fight again, i don't think anyone was carried, carp did a pretty sensible job of staying out of range then jumping into a clinch behind the right, and once or twice early quite a nice jab. He is wide open for uppercuts and anything resembleing a combination tho. the papke fight showed that too, and is the more disapointing perfomance from carp in my view.