Joe Calzaghe retired 46-0 (32) in 2008. Get over it. Fans & haters; quit trolling!

Loudon · Feb 19, 2015

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Originally Posted by Loudon View Post
There are a number of reasons why Joe Calzaghe is ESB's least favourite son.

All roads hardly ever lead to Calzaghe, hardly any major victory ever leads back to Joe, he is the bottom of the ESB food chain, (much like the Team ret*rd Corporation) he was 46-0 and there was always a blueprint on how to beat him. But silly billy patients who are strapped to their beds for 23 hours a day, are always going to love him.

It's clear that the majority of Calzaghe lovers on ESB, clearly never saw Roy or Toney fight in their prime, and only started watching boxing in 2006. Since Joe's victory over Lacy, his fans have lost all touch with reality and they believe he was better than Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali, because he never lost. A typical fan would believe that Joe could in fact have beaten Godzilla, because he could adapt to any style, and he had a fantastic engine, which would have allowed him to slap Godzilla down to size, with over 1000 slaps per round.

When Hopkins and Jones were unifying at 160 and 175, Joe was fighting in one of the weakest divisions in boxing.

While the likes of Jones, Hopkins and Toney were clowning fighters such as Tito, Ruiz and Jirov, Joe was fighting Veit, Ashira, and Sobot.

While the likes of Jones, Hopkins and Toney were testing themselves against good fighters, Joe was laying on the canvas after a knockdown by Sugar Ray Salem, and struggling with Robin Reid.

When the likes of Jones, Hopkins and Toney were relaxing on their lawn chairs after a hard days training, Joe was sprinting out of his door at the count of 2, after he'd realised that the mailman had dropped off his new passport that his Mum had ordered for him.

While the likes of Jones, Hopkins and Toney were trash talking and creating excitement fighting other great fighters, Joe was washing Frank W's car for a bit of extra pocket money, until a huge WBO fight got made.

While the likes of Hopkins were fighting in front of millions, Joe was trying to put a show on at the local ice rink.

When Jones, Hopkins and Toney were fighting other good fighters in their own Country, Joe was pretending to find his his lost passport, even though he'd thrown it away.

When the dust had settled at 175, and Hopkins had lost twice to Taylor, and was 43, Calzaghe obtained a new passport, miraculously overcame his fear of flying, and finally decided to move up in weight, even though he'd been starving himself to make 168 for 4 years. Even though his own Father thought that he'd lost, and he scr*ped the win by the skin of his teeth, he proclaimed himself as "The legend Killer" then made it clear that he didn't do rematches.

When Roy was 9 weeks from being 40, and it was more than 4 years after Tarver and Johnson had knocked him out, Joe finally had the b*lls to fight the man he'd hid from all of his career, and who he'd dismissed twice leading up to the fight. Even though many experts had Joe to win, due to the fact that Roy hadn't won at elite level for 5 years, Joe thought he was actually in the ring with the 90's version of Roy.

While Jones and Toney continue to fight like the proud warriors that they are, Joe dances badly on TV and sniffs lines of coke.

Lets's be honest, there's nothing much to love. His ugly slapping style, his reluctance to fight the best, his reluctance to leave Frank, his fruitcake fans trying to convince people he'd have troubled a prime Roy, even though he struggled with Reid.

Mentally challenged patients at the Newbridge nut house are always going to love him, and that will never change. The team ret*rds will continue to receive their medication, and all roads will continue to not lead back to Calslappy.

46 - 0. LMAO

Funnily enough if you had written that about a scabby little Yemeni ******* from a place called SHEFFIELD a few years ago, and thrown in the names Morales, Barerra, Junior Jones, ( NOT JONES Jr ) it might have had some credence.
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You know I was only kidding.

I laid it out in the exact same way as Head had laid his post out, and I tried to be as ridiculous as I could.

Naz is pretty much hated in Sheffield now.

Loudon · Feb 19, 2015

Serge said: ↑

As much as I like Sr., Jr. wouldn't exist if not for him. This is something that I cannot help but hold against him. Slapping Jr. across the chops in public would certainly be a step in the right direction to redeeming himself of the crime of bringing that evil little sh*t into the world in my eyes
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Ha!

Do you know what I'd like to do? Have a beer with Ronnie Davies. How long is he going to put up with Jnr? The surprising thing is, Chris Snr has got lots of respect for him, and has always had lots of respect for him. So I would have thought Snr would have hammered Jnr for disrespecting Ronnie. Maybe he has privately? But I can see Ronnie walking soon.

general zod · Feb 19, 2015

Moanamchara said: ↑

Toneys best weight I would think was 160. Most fighters progress up in weight naturally adding muscle to prove themselves at higher weights. Toney destroyed his fit body by over eating and then Weight draining himself over and over again it is not good for you weakens your muscles and slows you down. When he couldn't drain to his desired weight anymore he started moving up in weight classes. His boxing skill was amazing and allowed him to compete at 168 all the way through to heavyweight but physically he over ate and drained himself for his fights which weakens you. He removed himself from his prime because of his eating habits and because of this we missed out on a more competitive fight with Roy and a better career from Toney.
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I'm not sure if I can agree with that. Extreme weight cutting weakens you for the upcoming fight but I have yet to come across anything that says it has long term negative effects on a fighters body

Loudon · Feb 19, 2015

general zod said: ↑

I'm not sure if I can agree with that. Extreme weight cutting weakens you for the upcoming fight but I have yet to come across anything that says it has long term negative effects on a fighters body
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The point is, he could never fight to his full capabilities when he wasn't at 100%

He must have fought loads of fights where he wasn't at his best. Which is actually a testament to his skills.

How many former MW's that were grossly overweight could have had success at HW?

Serge · Feb 19, 2015

Loudon said: ↑

Ha!

Do you know what I'd like to do? Have a beer with Ronnie Davies. How long is he going to put up with Jnr? The surprising thing is, Chris Snr has got lots of respect for him, and has always had lots of respect for him. So I would have thought Snr would have hammered Jnr for disrespecting Ronnie. Maybe he has privately? But I can see Ronnie walking soon.
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I don't think Ronnie Davies is going anywhere by the sounds of this interview.

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Loudon · Feb 19, 2015

Serge said: ↑

I don't think Ronnie Davies is going anywhere by the sounds of this interview.

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Thanks pal, but I can't view it again.

Is it a recent one off YouTube?

general zod · Feb 19, 2015

Loudon said: ↑

The point is, he could never fight to his full capabilities when he wasn't at 100%

He must have fought loads of fights where he wasn't at his best. Which is actually a testament to his skills.

How many former MW's that were grossly overweight could have had success at HW?
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The point I am discussing is the long term negative effects of weight cutting

Serge · Feb 19, 2015

Loudon said: ↑

Thanks pal, but I can't view it again.

Is it a recent one off YouTube?
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It was a program about Eubank and son that was on BT Sport a few weeks ago.

Type this into Youtube if you want to watch it

'BT Sport Boxing Tonight - Eubank Special 2015'

Loudon · Feb 19, 2015

general zod said: ↑

The point I am discussing is the long term negative effects of weight cutting
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It surely takes a toll.

Loudon · Feb 19, 2015

Serge said: ↑

It was a program about Eubank and son that was on BT Sport a few weeks ago.

Type this into Youtube if you want to watch it

'BT Sport Boxing Tonight - Eubank Special 2015'
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Thanks a lot.

I'll have a look now.

:good

Imperial1 · Feb 19, 2015

Serge said: ↑

Fixed.

lol
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Never that

Imperial1 · Feb 19, 2015

Loudon said: ↑

Just to make it clear to anyone reading that, that was done purely to bait HeadBanger after what he'd written.

Of course I didn't mean any of it, and Joe was a great fighter.

:good
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Still was hilarious and full of irrefutable facts

Loudon · Feb 19, 2015

Imperial1 said: ↑

Still was hilarious and full of irrefutable facts
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I had to go crazy on Head and start talking about Godzilla etc.

I may have had a drink at the time also.

Imperial1 · Feb 19, 2015

Loudon said: ↑

I had to go crazy on Head and start talking about Godzilla etc.

I may have had a drink at the time also.

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Loudon · Feb 19, 2015

Serge,

I've just watched it.

I really enjoyed it, it was great.

Many thanks!

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