The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Another white boy hatin on money

 

Did he ever conduct himself in an intelligent/professional manner to look "dumb" all of a sudden?, the man was a loon from the start.

 

I thought bob arum was the problem?

why did Floyd offer pac 40 mill AND NO PPV MONEY when pac was rated number 1 back in 2012?

but in 2015 he offers pac a 60-40 split this after pac took a official loss and was knocked out?

do you admit the 2012 offer was a bogus one ?

 

True. You're right when you say he doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs. Pacquiao has had drinking problems, probably drug problems in the past.

And that is the craziest thing to me. This is what doesn't make sense. I completely agree with you, and so we should expect to see Pacquiao with more wear and tear... but, watching their past few fights, it seems Pacquiao is appearing closer to his prime than Mayweather. It makes absolutely 0 sense due to all the reasons you stated above.

Mayweather fought Maidana, a C+ fighter who stylistically was perfect for him...and Mayweather looked old and sluggish in both fights. Against someone who is tailor-made for him!

Then, Pacquiao fought Algieri, a C+ fighter who stylistically was all wrong for him- at least for those who believe he struggles highly w/ boxers-...and Pacquiao looked closer to his younger self than I've seen.

It's really weird, and it doesn't make sense to me at all.

 

I actually don't agree, I don't think maidana was stylistically great for floyd. You see after the first fight floyd said he has a real awkward style. He has a good jab and throws such weird punches and we all saw his hammer punch right hand lol. I think canelo was the perfect example of a perfect style for floyd, atleast in recent times. Throws traditional punches, isn't the quickest on his feet or punching.. and doesn't press and use his size advantage.

I also think algieri was a decent stlye for manny, albeit he does prefer guys coming at him but algieri showed in the provodnikov fight he's not exactly hard to catch and hit. He only won that fight because provodnikovs defence is his face lol. When I watch algieri his footwork looks so awkward and he puts nothing into his punches at all.

 

Also, Mayweather's camp is already starting to trash-talk Pacquiao.

Roger Mayweather is saying Pacquiao is going to get his a** whooped and knocked out by 6th round! He said he'll tell the ref not to count to early, so Floyd can really put the beating on him.

"His going to get hit in the jaw- boom. He's going to get hit in the head- boom. . . you saw what Marquez did to Pacquiao and then what Mayweather did to Marquez. . .there will be no rematch," Roger Mayweather.

Can't wait to hear the banter between the two camps up to the fight! Freddie Roach said he might get in a fight, lol!

 

Reason I see Maidana as stylistically tailor-made is because it doesn't take much to be tailor-made against Money Mayweather. Maidana was big. A heavy puncher. A very slow puncher. He doesn't throw many combinations unless he's pressed Mayweather on ropes, and even then, he's so slow that it doesn't matter. Then, he is extremely flat-footed. A come forward, pressure fighter. All of this qualities are enough to make easy work for Mayweather. I've seen it before, and I expected to see it again.

On Maidana's awkward angles. The only punch that was thrown awkwardly is that really weird overhand right, and you're right...Floyd did struggle with it. It took him late in the first fight to be able to time that one punch. However, even with that one punch, Maidana still had all the other qualities in the world that would make him an easy opponent for Floyd Mayweather. I think the awkward overhand right may have been that one tough attribute about Maidana, but...were talking about Floyd Mayweather here. If an awkward overhand right is enough to make Maidana a tough matchup for Mayweather, then what's going to happen when Pacquiao gets in there when he throws all of his punches awkwardly? Mayweather is greater than that though. He shouldn't have struggled with it. A prime Mayweather definitely wouldn't have. A prime Mayweather for one wouldn't have sat on the ropes that long, but that's a different conversation xD. Maidana was able to land his jab. Maidana was able to hurt him with the overhand right in the first fight, and then, hurt him with the straight right hand in the second fight.

And I hate to say it, but I honestly believe that struggle had more to do with Floyd than Maidana. No disrespect to Maidana. But it was Floyd. Floyd looked worse. He even said himself at the end of the 2nd fight that he was getting caught with punches that he shouldn't get hit with, and that he is starting to feel "dry" in the ring. He felt it, and I most certainly saw it.

Algieri is underrated. Can't compete with Floyd or Manny, but I think he could compete and beat a ton of fighters out there, especially in 140. His style is that extremely mobile, boxing technician. A style that I don't see often anymore.

He outboxed Ruslan Provodnikov with one eye. The dude is a tough cookie. Algieri beat him more convincingly than top 3 P4P Timothy Bradley! If you can survive against Provodnikov and Pacquiao, then that's shows a lot about your skill, determination, and toughness. Algieri has a lot of it.

I thought Algieri's movement would cause Pacquiao problems since that was the common belief about Pacquiao along with other beliefs like Pacquiao struggled with a long jab, couldn't cut off the ring, lunges into his punches when he starts chasing, etc. Then, Algieri also had the great jab, longer reach, height advantage, and one heck of a chin, but like Timothy Bradley said, "Pacquiao was able to isolate all of that, man." Pacquiao cut off the ring well, and even with Algieri COMPLETELY disengaged and literally running, Pacquiao was still able to drop him 6 times!

THAT'S what impressed me. Plus, he looked younger like I said. When have we seen Pacquiao destroy an opponent like that, regardless if he belonged in there or not? I don't think since Margarito or Cotto. I've missed it, lol.

 

Signed but not delivered. Floyd will fake an injury or beat another woman before May 2nd.

 

Would like to do a ban bet on that?:hey

 

That's my exact point, 'atleast in recent times' for sure 5 years ago it'd of been an easy fight for floyd but right now he doesn't look as fast he was.

I think that was the big thing though in the first and second fights, floyd was on his toes alot more and got off the ropes. Thats where maidana was smothering and throwing weird combinations, to which the shoulder roll just has no use and you see floyd started opting for a high guard and ducking because he just had no clue what maidana would throw next.

I agree about pac but I just felt it was the ropes floyd struggled with maidana, in the centre of the ring he was fine and manny won't be pushing floyd around like that and won't be forcing him to the ropes. Manny likes to fight at a distance and jump in and back out which his speed allows him to do but I think that might play into floyds hands. It's a real tough one the call, not as simple as floyd wins on points, manny ko's floyd. Manny isn't easy to beat on points.

 

Great post. I agree completely, that's what threw me off against maidana, was that he was getting hit with Marcos's jab, he looked visibly slower as well. I also agree pac looked rejuuvenated, and between the 2, almost as if it happened overnight it seems floyd seems to be further away from his prime. I feel pac has a better shot at this as well than the 2011-2013 version, as well based on the last 2 outings of both fighters.

That said, floyds got the reach, ability to time pac and adjust, and can pac cut the ring off, if it comes down to that? I'm not so sure.

 

I don't see him beating Manny. Wouldn't surprise me one bit

 

This. The only reason this fight might happen is because the big guys at CBS/showtime are forcing it on Phloyd. He'd keep his perfect ducking streak intact if he could. Actually I'm sure he's still looking for a way out as we speak.

 

Newsflash Ariza has always looked stupid

 

Which is why I think the fight is 50/50, lol. Floyd would have won so easily 4 years ago. Soo easily. It may have come back to bite him in the butt though because if Mayweather was waiting for Manny to slow down, he's slowing down as well.

On the 2nd fight, he definitely stayed off the ropes more which he needed to do. But, he stilled looked older, slower, etc. Pull up the Canelo fight and then the Maidana fight. Majority of was center of the ring, but you'll see whenever Canelo threw a punch, Floyd is OUT of there. He didn't just avoid it, he jumped away from it! He'd use his legs to get himself completely out of the way.

Against Maidana, you'll see he doesn't use that bounciness in his legs. He was more heavier set. Instead of using his legs and footwork as a major part of his defense like when he was prime and against Canelo, he now seems to just duck and use his upper torso more. This in turn made Maidana hit him more easily(but still not easily) because Floyd is standing in front of him more.

Pull the two up and watch them side by side. Don't watch Canelo or Maidana. Specifically watch Floyd and compare the speed in his reflexes and overall body.

The way Stephen A. Smith described it, (hate referencing him) was before Floyd would throw a punch and you'd say, "Not even close." Now, a punch is thrown and you say, "Wow, that was close."

And even Maidana 2 fight when he wasn't on the ropes, Floyd got caught. Remember the straight right hand at the end of round 3? Like wtf, Floyd!!! You don't get hit with those! It's seriously freaking me out. I don't want to think he's slipping. I want him and Pacquiao to last forever. :-(