The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Patently.

No ****.

In no sense whatsoever, actually.

Good for them. Add up all the names you mentioned, hell, double them, or triple - & the butterfly effect from Mayweather vs. Pacquiao still affects less than <<< .01% of the sport of boxing.

Golovkin vs. Murray is going ahead tomorrow for the unified middleweight championship of the world, regardless of what happens or doesn't happen with this announcement. Short of the Salle des Étoiles being raided by Islamic militants during the action (or someone taking up the mantle of Fan Man, and that would be quite a feat considering the Salle is an indoor venue) nothing is going to stop it from going through.

If you care about the MW division, or like watching Golovkin (or Murray) ply his craft, or if you just like boxing period, you will be tuning in tomorrow night and not giving a rat's ass what is going on with May/Pac while you are watching.

Kovalev vs. Pascal is coming up in a few weeks. AWESOME fight. Mayweather vs. Pacquiao has no bearing on it whatsoever.

Matthysse vs. Provodnikov? That's happening. Whether there is an official announcement regarding May 2nd between now and then or not, it won't affect Matthysse vs. Provodnikov happening on April 18th in any way shape or form.

Hell, even in their own division the boxing world isn't "on hold". Thurman vs. Guerrero is a good fight, signed and official. Nobody involved there is waiting on this announcement. Kell Brook is getting his mandatory defense over with next month come hell or high water. He isn't sitting around with his thumb up his ass following Twitter waiting to see why the MGM Grand was booked. He's focusing on beating Dan, and will then be ready to start thinking about whatever comes next.

At 154, the other division potentially affected by what Mayweather chooses to do with his next Showtime contract date - you already have Canelo vs. Kirkland, signed and official. Charlo vs. Martirosyan, signed and official. Rabchenko plus a slew of the other top ranked light middles slated to participate in the WBC #1 contender tourney. (facing either Mayweather, if he doesn't vacate, or somebody else if he does)

Nobody is getting jammed up awaiting news about two guys and whether they're fighting on May 2nd.

Maybe a few of the people you mentioned, but those few people aren't bigger than boxing on the whole. 147/154 aren't more important than all the other divisions combined. Get real.

...and you're dead wrong, because you're completely ignorant of how deep this sport runs across the globe and how much of it there is beyond the scope of the American media and Twitter-verse which is really your only area of "expertise".

Oh yeah?

I guarantee you I've seen more Pacquiao and Mayweather fights than you. I'd wager, thrice as many of both of their professional bouts.

Trust me, I know where they both stand right now. Both are in decline in about equal proportion - yet, as you say, both still not only world class but elite. Doesn't matter. Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is a good fight. Really good. That doesn't make it more important than all of boxing combined. You may think so, but that's only because you're just an impressionable child and susceptible to hoopla. You're drawn to all the celebrity worship aspects of pop culture. That's fine. Just don't act like you represent the interests of those who care about the sport first and foremost and don't elevate individual stars (even the p4p best two of the last decade or so, potentially squaring off in a super-fight) above it.

Nothing ignorant about those fans. The fight was always dumb. Stylistically it never had the makings of a great fight, if you ignore the fact of them being #1 and #2 p4p (or close enough to it) over the sage's timeline and look at them just as two boxers. Now if Mayweather had become more shot over the last several years while Pacquiao retained closer to his 2009 levels of sharpness & speed, then it might get interesting. They've both lost a step in about equal measure though, which means the outcome now is probably the same as it would've been then, and the action itself as likely to disappoint.

Mayweather vs. Pacquiao has always, from the inception of the very idea when both started to campaign in similar territory, been a "big event". A big event doesn't mean necessarily a great fight, however.

All well and good but that doesn't make this anything more than a good fight.

Let me ask you this:

If you're so hung up on the idea of two highly rated p4p boxers meeting being such a big deal that all of the boxing world should freeze and hold its breath in anticipation - will you be this excited about González vs. Inoue if & when it comes to fruition in a couple of years? Do you even know who either of them are? I'm guessing you don't. They are both already knocking on the p4p door and by the retirement of Mayweather, Pacquiao, and some others getting up there we face the very real possibility of González & Inoue being in those uppermost 2 slots - and, tantalizingly, we could actually see them clash while the p4p top dogs, and in their primes, no less.

Not to mention, that pair will arguably have every bit as much combined natural talent & skill on display in the ring as would May & Pac.

So in reality, if & when that fight happens, you should be MORE excited for it than for Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, right?

But no. You won't be a hundredth as excited. Because neither González nor Inoue have a cult of manufactured celebrity in the Western media that serves as your infotainment-bombardment lifeline.

:roll: By putting in check ridiculous statements about their greatness implying that it transcends and supersedes ALL OF THE REST OF BOXING?

That is just childish mooning. Pure squealing fan girl talk.

All this Mayweather vs. Pacquiao bull**** is like Beatlemania.

Yes, the Beatles were a great and highly influential rock band.

Yes, they're both great fighters - even deep into their respective thirties, which is old considering they debuted at super feather and light fly respectively and have nearly 800 combined pro rounds under their belts - and pitting them against each other with both holding belts and both highly rated in the same division, makes for a good fight.

Were the Beatles really "bigger than Jesus", as the mania implied, though?

Is the Mayweather vs. Pacquiao fight really "bigger than boxing", as you imply?

**** no, in both cases.

Undermining their greatness? Please. Both are great. Neither is as great, however, as the 4 Kings of a generation ago. When those ATGs had their many historic battles, nobody (outside maybe promoters barking their product) ever claimed that each was big enough an event to overshadow all of the rest of the sport. That's just pure arrogance, to assume that just because you're lulled in by the hype that everybody who likes boxing has to be or that caring about two welters more than all of boxing is mandatory.

People like you & the breadth of this very thread have me asking that same question on a regular basis.

Fortunately, there are enough like-minded individuals who place a premium on boxing (& not just a couple of boxers who trend hot on Twitter or have lots of star power or get the occasional rare mention on notoriously boxing-phobic ESPN) to keep me around. My sentiments are shared & echoed by many, actually. We are simply drowned out by all the nut-swingers (of both May & Pac) & haters (of both May & Pac) & the casuals who DKSAB outside the most surface-level mainstream stuff.

Any of "us"? Okay, 1-month newbie.

I'm sure you'll get people rallying to support you because a) the herd is thick with idiots who share your sentiments that Mayweather & Pacquiao are by themselves somehow worth more attention than 99.999999% of boxing, on account of being either nut-swingers, haters, or casuals & b) you're a girl on a boxing forum (ooh!) & most of the aforementioned people & many of the remaining trolls are pimply virgins.

Nah. Call me a creature of habit. My tent's staked. I was here first. :smooch

 

:bart I'm buckets of fun to argue. Ever a gentleman, too.