A question to Roy Jones Jnr fans about his win over J Toney

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  1. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bailey you keep saying toney was exposed, but exposed as what exactly?

    I might be mistaken but aren't you a full grown man? The fact you are putting so much effort into trolling and trying to get a reaction from jones/toney fans is actually a bit embarrassing :lol:
     
  2. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah I've never interacted with you, I've just seen your insanely long posts on Calzaghe in the Brit forum, they make me laugh. that post nailed the way you would talk about those fights had it been Calzaghe :good
     
  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :huh Who's Gabe Brown?

    :patsch Loudon doesn't even recognize the guy who is supposed to be one of his messiah Roid's greatest wins.
     
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im not trolling and when I say exposed, it is probably being taken in a different context.
    I was asking if Toney didnt have his 0, would he have been as highly a rated win. I cant see what is so difficult to understand with that?
    when I said exposed, it was meant how some fighters are shown to have a style weakness in certain areas, which is often something that top fighters can use to win fights.
    M Schmeling noted that after jabbing J Lewis would drop his guard, which is where he was able to land punches over the top. He exposed a weakness. That doesnt mean Lewis wasnt a great fighter, but Max had seen something he could use, and the point is that when some fighters have had so many close fights, they are close fights because the opponent has had success, which is success another fighter can watch and take into the ring against the opponent.
    I mentioned another example with Froch, who is a fighter that I like alot.

    Here is a repeated post below

    No my point was if Toney had of lost by SD to Johnson, lost by SD to Sosa, lost by SD to Tiberi etc, would the Jones win have been considered as big? I would guess not as people are looking at his boxrec.
    Nobody is questioning who he fought. Here is a post to another poster who needed further explaining -
    Toney although having good performances also had some performances where style problems were revealed. Another example is with Froch like how many predicted for Ward to beat Froch, based on a tough fight with Adamu, Pascal, Taylor a SD that some feel he lost to Dirrell, a loss to Kessler a Mdec to old boiled down SMW journeyman Johnson. Before that fight, what Froch is good and not good at, had been found out, which is what I think about the Toney/Jones fight.
    Toney had been in a tough fight with C Williams in the very fight before he fought Jones, had been troubled by pressure from Tiberi etc. With Jones, he hadnt really had many problems from opponents that Toney could site, but Toney had, had several. If the M Griffin fight for Jones, had of happened, it may have given him something he could have looked at for example
     
  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not.

    But I used both Joe and Eubank as examples to illustrate my point. I used them because I know that those guys are two of Bailey's favourites fighters.

    :good
     
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Often many dont know the full facts and those posts often give posters who take the time to read them, a little bit of info that they were not aware of, before posting incorrect posts.
    I think you are jumping to a conclusion, and making assumptions, but I dont care enough to be bothered with what you think, if im honest. No offence
     
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lets just stick with the fighters related to the post today. thanks
     
  8. LondonRingRules

    LondonRingRules Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah you post your opinions on calzaghes opponents, and then anyone who disputes it is wrong, I get it. But anyway that's off the topic. Toney was a great fighter, his 0 was irrelevant to that and it was a great win, everyone has tough fights or bad nights, doesn't make toney any less of a great fighter (even if he is an idiot). And no offence taken, it's an internet forum after all.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I only tend to dispute alot of what is factually incorrect.
    With toney it wasnt one off night I was pointing to and I was saying he wasnt good, but was pointing that he could have had a loss and if he did, would the Jones fight have been viewed the same, which seems to make fans struggle to answer.
    I think the win is looked back on favouraby due to an undefeated record, which I do think often mentally assists a fighter
     
  10. Imperial1

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    :deal
     
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  12. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal You're good my friend. Excellent responses.
     
  13. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :amen
     
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  15. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    When I say sh*t you pick up a shovel and come running with it.:rofl:rofl:rofl

    In the meantime send 88 chris 05 a pm, and ask him nicely if you can be his gofer, because the other 2 are sick of you riding their coat tails.

    Oh by the way, have you worked out what a precursor in chemistry is yet? Or are you still fvcking stupid enough to claim Roid didn't take PED's?

    You fvcking worm.