A question to Roy Jones Jnr fans about his win over J Toney

I think you take yourself a bit too seriously, Foxy. Roid Jones? Dear me. You seem a little obsessed with trying to look like an authoritative figure on an anonymous forum and it's a bit worrying that you get so upset over it.

By the way, rather than just debate (properly) the points I'm making, why do you keep referencing Jones fans all the time, as if that somehow effects what I'm writing?

The ones who keep rolling out barbed attacks and partake in all the dismissive name calling in an effort to look like some kind of boxing guru generally end up looking like anything but. Just a hint, fella

 

Then you'd be better off spouting your mouth off at the ones that do. Particularly the Roid Jones fan boy scum, that can't leave ANY thread alone without kunting off Joe Calzaghe, even when the threads have NOTHING to do with him.

They are worse than P.a.c.t.a.r.ds.

 

If I tried for 20 years I simply couldn't work out the sheer hypocritical idiocy of Roid Jones fans.

All over the internet are thousands upon thousands of posts by them slagging Toney off to an alarming extent. Then at the drop of a hat they elevate him to ATG status if Jones resume comes into question.

MORONIC or what?

 

Now you just have to be Murican. Claiming victory even when the Vietnamese sent them home with their tails between their legs. Thread over my ass, we are just enjoying making you Jones fan boys dance.

 

In the way you just have, do you mean?:rofl

 

Great post mate.

But only 92 posts?

Sort it out!



:good

 

Well thanks for the wonderful revelation, but as I tried to explain to you in the first reply disguising nothing with a thousand words still leaves nothing in content.

Feel free to counter my points regarding Toney's DRAW with 35 year old McCallum, or even if you like Roid Jones' win against the 40 year old version.

If you like you can name me 10 boxers that were still at their absolute best at 35 and over, and I will name you 50, that were not.

By the way referring to Jones as Roid is really quite self explanatory.

1. He tested positive for PED's.

2. It is just a single letter adjustment to his ACTUAL name.

Have a nice day.

 

I didn't quote you, I quoted a great post that tore you a new one.

I don't ride anyone's coat tails... But I find It hilarious when you get destroyed... And it makes it even better that you don't even realize it because you have the brain the size of a pea.:rofl

Stop lying about what I said... I have never said Roy didn't take PEDS. Not only are you an idiot but a compulsive liar.

It was you that so proudly claimed Roy took Andro, which it is a huge suspicion that Roy's lawyers came up with that story as damage control, as it was available over the counter and you needed no roid dealer... I am surprised you believe it.:rofl

I simply said, If Roy was taking Roids, it would have been many other better roids on the market then, not one that is not proven to increase strength and speed, and can just as likely make you grow man tits.

Androstenedione

Much of what has been said about androstenedione has been distorted by the press looking for a story, the vitamin industry looking for a profit, and even scientific types looking for a little limelight. Will andro turn you into a massive-biceped, home-run-hitting hero? Not a chance -- yet that doesn't mean it's useless. New evidence suggests that andro's real strengths lie not on the field, but in the bedroom.
Like testosterone, androstenedione is classified as an androgen, a class of steroids that occur naturally in your body. These are the hormones responsible for a deep voice, strong *** drive, body hair, muscular build, etc. Produced in the testes and the adrenal glands, andro is primarily converted into the more biologically potent testosterone. That's why andro is called a "precursor."
Athletes have used male hormones for years to increase their mass, strength and performance. Testosterone and its chemical derivatives -- anabolic steroids -- build muscle, though at the risk of a host of side effects, including heart and liver problems. Since testosterone is currently banned by several athletic organizations as a performance-enhancing drug, people began taking andro hoping that it would convert to testosterone. However, this process is complex and can differ substantially from one guy to the next. For example, andro can also convert to estrogen, which can lead to male breast development.
If your body does convert andro into testosterone, it may be further metabolized into a substance called dihydrotestosterone. The conversion of testosterone to DHT is responsible for increases in facial and body hair, abnormal growth of the prostate and male hair loss. If you're concerned about losing your hair, you don't want extra hormones circulating in your body, especially since an increase in testosterone doesn't guarantee an anabolic response in your muscles.

 

Reading only what you want to read again. Find me a post where I, or anyone else, said that McCallum was still at his absolute peak or better than ever before at 35 when he first boxed Toney. I can wait.

What I actually said was that he was still evidently a very good fighter at 35, still good enough for a win / high quality draw against him to be classed as a good result for a fighter in Toney's position. But again, your tactic is to just take what is really said and then make up a way to call it something else and over exaggerate any point made against you, so I'm not surprised you're coming back at me with this.

"Oh so you're putting McCallum on a SRR or Ali level now!?"

"Oh, so you're saying that 1991 McCallum was the best ever version of him now!?"

"Oh, so you're saying that Jones never referenced Toney's battle with weight now!?"

And so on. You've got to come with some better stuff than that, mate. We all lose debates sometimes....I reckon you've lost this one, fella.

 

He wasn't exposed, and fighters don't always fight to their full capabilities.

 

Foxy is a strange one..


He also thinks there is no way Roy was more faded than Glen Johnson because they were both 35, and had the same amount of fights...

I tried to explain to him that every fighter is different, some are shot at 30, some are still elite fighters all through their 30's, and some rarely still elite into their 40s.

It went way over his head, good luck not only getting a decent argument out of him, but he turns to nationalistic insults very fast and hates everything American.:yep

 

Haha!

I laughed so hard at the photo!

 

It would depend, Herol, entirely on which version of Toney turned up wouldn't it? Because even the most devoted of his fans have to admit that even in his prime Toney was notoriously inconsistent. On his day he could beat anyone but you could never count on him turning up at his best.

 

Far from it.

How about you do what you think you are good at? Using lots of words when they are not needed.

We can start by addressing your " I've heard the weight making excuses." nonsense.

Post the weights Toney fought at from the Barkley fight to the Jones fight. You can leave out Barkley Thornton, Littles, and Williams, as we know they were 168 fights.

If when you have posted them and they show a pattern of Toney going up and down like a *****s underwear, we can look forward to your explanation of his so called " excuses "

Then we can further debate Mike's achievements after the 91 draw with Toney. I don't think you said " evidently " at all when you referred to Mike still being a " very good fighter " at 35.

What you did say however, was that anyone who thought that his age was a factor in the D with Toney, and the L 9 months later was wrong, and that all credit should be given to the 12 year younger man.

You can CLAIM you are winning this debate as long as your ass points downwards, makes no difference to me.