Marquez: Pacquiao is very dangerous

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  1. hofbrau

    hofbrau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "We know that Manny Pacquiao is not at his best, but he is coming in with a lot of motivation, with a lot of hunger, but the level is not the same. After that big knockout in 2012, a fighter's mind can change. A big punch to the jaw and he can relive those moments of 2012. Hopefully this does not happen and it becomes a great fight for the fans who have waited, but in the end Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are not at their best," Marquez said.

    "I'm not saying they are not [great fighters]. Floyd Mayweather is considered the best pound for pound, followed by Manny Pacquiao, but what I am saying is they are not at their best - athletically speaking - because that fight should have happened three years ago - but it remains as an interesting fight that all of the fans want to see."

    "It's a very dangerous fight [for Mayweather], because he has not faced any opponent with the speed or aggression of Pacquiao, and in this case also with power. Mayweather has not faced an opponent with these characteristics."
     
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  2. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed with everything, but this....

    "but he is coming in with a lot of motivation, with a lot of hunger, but the level is not the same."

    I disagree with this. I think Pacquiao, knowing he's the huge underdog, will be as motivated as he was against Oscar De La Hoya. Maybe more since this is his entire legacy.


    I also believe Pacquiao is completely, fully mentally recovered from the Marquez KO.
     
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  3. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Floyd isn't? :patsch Pac didn't need to be motivated against DLH. Oscar was so drained, his body didn't even rehydrate. He weighed less than Pac fight night. Pac won't get a dried raisin fighting him in Floyd.
     
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  4. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No? Floyd will be just as motivated.

    And, Pacquiao was extremely motivated for that fight because he was a bigger underdog than he is now, and he was also fighting the boxer he looked up to his entire life.

    Seriously, man. How do you get "Floyd isn't motivated" and "Oscar was in great condition" from my post? It's as if you are trying to make an argument out of nothing.
     
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  5. brando

    brando Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When youre underdog, so many people are riding you motivating to win that fight.
    How many people are expecting Manny to win against a huge favorite Oscar that night? 1:3 ppv share 70-30 if im not wrong.
     
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  6. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many were in disbelief after seeing Oscar come in weighing less than Manny? The odds of that happening had to be 1000:1. NOBODY expected that. That was a medical victory. Nobody who saw that fight could say that was a healthy Oscar in there.
     
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  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I have no idea if the translation may lose some of the context, but I didn't read that as him questioning the level of Pac's hunger/motivation, but more about his skills and physical peak.

    He's bounced back about as well as can be expected. Full recovery is rare, though, and his style has shown some different tendencies since that may arguably help him in some regards at this stage.
     
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  8. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    3 years ago? Floyd was fighting Ortiz and Cotto and Paqiao "lost" to Bradley. The fight should have happened 6 years ago when it was Pacqiao who was #1 p4p coming of not wins but destructions of DeLaHoya, Hatton and Cotto and Mayweather was coming off a layoff but successfully dismantling Marquez. Now we have question marks. Maybe Floyd's age will catch up with him, he is 37. Maybe Pacqiao is damaged goods.
     
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  9. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  10. Ivo May

    Ivo May Member Full Member

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    He can be motivated as much as he wants. He doesn't have it anymore. His punches are slow and predictable.
     
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  11. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd is not as motivated. He's gonna be 38 years old by fight night and all he wants to do is focus on being a business man. Floyd would much rather be Al Haymon than Sugar Ray Robinson.
     
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  12. repsaccer

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    And the excuses pour in already. Of course Floyd will be fully motivated.
    This will be his career defining win. If it goes that way. Will he be as
    good as he was? Of course not, neither will Pacquiao. But I am 100%
    sure both guys will be as motivated as they can be.
     
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  13. boxing_master

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    even marquez knows pac declined a lot
     
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  14. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No excuses I'm a big fan of Manny Pac. Just saying it as I see it.
     
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  15. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    Both guys have declined so no excuses at the end result.


    If Mayweather wins by SD then i'd hope he would give Pacquiao a rematch like he did with Maidana.


    I was thinking Pacquiao would win due to his power advantage plus having speed.


    I think now it may look like Mayweather vs Marquez but with Pacquiao having a lot more success but not enough to clock up the rounds.
     
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