Gennady Golovkin If He Was Around In '92-'93

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  1. impacted

    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The man is so clearly the number one at 160 in 2015 it's becoming an embarrassment. The other guys who make up the top 10 either can't, or much more unforgivably, won't compete with him.

    The best period of 160 I've seen was around the early 90's, packed with ultra-talented guys who feared nobody and had the physical ability to match. Murderous one-shot hitters like a young McClellan and Julian Jackson, granite tough master boxers like Toney and McCallum, hardened, top-notch pros like Kalambay and Reggie Johnson, and the emerging phenomenon Roy Jones.

    How do you see Gennady faring if he was placed into that Lion's den? Still emerging as a clear number one? Top contender just short of elite? Struggling to break the top 10? I see him winning more than he loses, but not becoming the dominant wrecking machine that he is today.
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    Roy Jones Jr. would beat him. One-sided.
     
  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right now he looks special and I am not sure anyone could handle his power. Roy may make many problems but if caught GGG cracks that chin, GGG is better offensively than anyone than anyone B-Hop or Jones faced.

    I think 3-G would do well in 92-93 and any era
     
  4. NoNeck

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    Hell would freeze over before he could beat Roy. Otherwise, he'd be one of the best.
     
  5. impacted

    impacted Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree that Jones's speed would probably get him a points win over Golovkin 9 times out of 10. Golovkin vs Toney, McClellan or McCallum are all 'What ifs?' to make the mouth water though.
     
  6. SILVER SKULL 66

    SILVER SKULL 66 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If GGG had been around in 92-93, he would have been outboxed by Jones jr, Toney, outfought by Hopkins, and would have problems perhaps beyond his abilities, to deal successfully with the likes of Nigel Benn, Eubank, Julian Jackson and Mccllean, all guys in the 160-168 range..

    This GGG dude can punch yes, but at the same time his defense is lacking and he gets hit to much, which could lead him to his demise against those big bangers, Toney, Roy, Jackson etc, in that small era.
     
  7. superman1692

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    Agreed. RJJ would beat him. Cue the horde of idiotic, nationalistic and xenophobic Brits on this board to start slagging you off, and embarrassing the UK overall with their anti-American BS ('tis more painful for me to read, as I am a Brit and those re****s make me look bad)
     
  8. ribtickler68

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    I've just expressed similar doubts on another thread. GGG is a ridiculous puncher, yes, but who has he fought as a pro? I can't see him taking Benn's punches without blinking and both Toney and Eubank were good counter punchers who could give him fits.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    He loses wide decisions to RJJ or maybe getting stopped himself, Roy was a beast at 160. He loses to Toney and McCallum close decision type fights. He knocks out Benn and beats McClellan by UD or late KO.
     
  10. mr. magoo

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    I see the makings of a Mike Tyson like career. He'll look invincible for a while, have everyone thinking that he'd beat the legends of the division. Then as soon as he looses to someone he's not supposed to, the same people who called him "invincible" will claim that he couldn't even beat a second rater in Robinson's era.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    1 ) NO way in the world would Roy Jones fight him.

    2 ) Jones with his fragile chin would get knocked out. GGG doesn't mind getting hit if it means hitting the other guy.
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    Maybe

    Jones' chin wasn't fragile. He didn't start losing fights by stoppage until he was already 35+ years of age and primarily to light heavyweights.



    He also hasn't faced anyone who can hurt him or land with any regularity.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    Magoo,

    GGG hits like Tyson, but he doesn't have the outside of the ring issues, or lack of focus, nor is he faced with much bigger and longer opponents due to the weight class he is in. Tyson was a front runner type. GGG is not. He can be a patient and creative fighter. For example I've seen him come down on overhands as if they are mirror image uppercuts. You could say he puts both mental and physical pressure on his opponents.

    GGG is 13-0 in his title defenses of the WBA belt. No man has made the distance with him in a 10 or 12 round fight. IMO he's the best pound for pound fighter in boxing today.

    To go out a bit more on a limb, I would have a hard time picking 5 middle weights in history that I think would beat him.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Jones, because he avoided dangerous punchers op never really had his chin tested at middle weight. Had someone else clipped him early the rest of his future opponents would be embolden to do the same. Chins are best tested when they are hit. For example, Wlad has not been stopped in over ten years. Do you think he has a good chin? I don't. He simply does not get hit for various reasons.

    I think GGG hits harder than Traver who took Jones out early with one hook, or Johnson who had Roy down for something like 60 seconds.

    GGG hits harder than many heavyweights. Gym rumors say he worked Povetkin over.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    All of the above may be true. But I think I'd wait until he beats someone a little bit better than Martin Murray or some of the other ones he's faced before I'd get too carried away about him beating history's best.