CLASSIC FIGHT NIGHT THREAD:Wilder-Fury II

Moot. Moot points all of it. None of that post proves even in the slightest that his chin his iron.

Was Korobov ever down before he met Lee. As and am or a pro. He fought Lee who can punch and he was gone in the 6th.

GGG hasn't fought any bangers. Not one. And the guys he's fighting are too tentative to load up and are all fighting in retreat mode unable to put anything behind their shots. There is literally nothing to suggest iron chin.

Learn how the sport works before making up fairy tales.

 

M, your post is so factual and on target. I have always favored top fighters of my youth the 1940's, not because of sheer sentiment, but because of the greater amount of pro fighters fighting in a deep pool of talent, as opposed to today. But in GGG I recognize a talent that transcends todays mediocre
middleweight skills, and I firmly believe that were GGG around the 1940s and
following era, he would more than hold his own with anyone since a chap named Harry Greb...What in the world could a man do more then dominate
all of his MW era ???

 

Wherever our current opinions lie with Golovkin, there can be no doubt, with each new hammering addition that whiff of greatness is getting stronger.

 

If middle doesn't pick up before Golovkin declines and he doesn't move up, i think he could have a Khaosai Galaxy type career.

And end up getting initially well overhyped by the contingent of boxing fans that can never see past a destructive puncher when he's beating up on mediocre opposition.

Then there will be the inevitable backlash as more and more people see he was rarely tested by good fighters when they look over his career again, or come to him without the hype that follows any big puncher doing well around.

And gradually a middle ground will be found.

 

cannae help it tbh.Just got it all sussed.

 

GGG's amatuer record was 345-5! He was never floored. This suggest extreme skills as the amatuer game is mostly who lands the most in the shortest amount of time. GGG holds wins over Lee, Direll, Bute ( KO'd BUTE ) to name a few.

As a pro GGG has never been floored. He doesn't blink when he's hit. He does he change tactics or retreat. This suggests an iron chin.

Golovkin has never been knocked down or knocked out in over 375 + fights, both as a professional and amateur. If you read into other factors, you'll find out why.

There isn't a single boxing writer out there who questions his chin.

I do not know if Korobov was down before he meet Lee.

 

Maybe he does have an iron chin, maybe he doesn't.

He hasn't fought any hitters or been in a fight that proves for certain he has one. That is the bottom line.

 

dino, every great fighter you can name and you favor, including Hagler, Marciano, Clay etc, YOU can say the SAME THING when he is coming up."WHO THE HELL HAS HE FOUGHT" ? There is such a thing as intuition and a hunch seeing a budding talent and
recognizing "greatness" not apparent to some as you. In GGG ,I
after watching boxers for 70 or so years see in him a latent
greatness as a middleweight, though I can recognize the fact
that GGG has not fought fighters I have seen in the "golden age"
of boxing, through NO DARN FAULT OF HIS OWN. But what I
perceive through thoughtful observation is that this monster
GGG, has what it takes to more than hold his own with any middleweight I have ever seen. Call it thoughtful observation if you like...

 

Don't dispute that Burt. He's a tremendous talent for sure and looks like a terror for any MW ever.

Im not so sure of Hagler beating him . He has the wrong attributes for the job imo.

I only took issue with this claiming he has an iron chin as a certainty. There is nothing at all to prove he is packing an ATG cast iron chin.

 

And there is also NOTHING that say's that GGG after over 330 amateur and pro fights never VISITING the canvas ever proves that GGG DOES NOT have an iron chin !!! Tell me dino who has the BETTER CASE ???
P.S. Why does GGG have the wrong attributes for beating Hagler.? I would think that except for the fact that Hagler was a southpaw and fought better men, GGG could hit as hard in the body and head, is a tough hombre in close, can cut off the ring as no other MW I've seen, he GGG has a damn good chance to beat Hagler...One other thing I in my mind's eye can never see a
brave but cuttable taker like a Vito Antuofermo, LAST 15 rounds with a hurtful puncher as GGG is...Can't see it for what it's worth...

 

I think Golovkin should stay at MW for at least another couple of years. He's a small MW as it is by modern standards and doesn't have the frame to bulk up that much more. He'd probably giving away close to 15 lbs on average at SMW. It's better than he'd prove himself as much as possible at MW and then possibly move up.

Of course, he could always go up to SMW for one big fight and then come back to MW. But what really should happen is a unification bout with Cotto and then a metting with the winner of PBF-Pac. Well, after those fights a showdown with Ward would be nice. One can always dream, right.

 

I don't think he's small for middleweight? Same weight as Macklin and two pounds heavier than Proksa on fight night. Seems pretty standard sized to me.