PBF w/ dad instead of Uncle Rog in the corner a functional advantage or disadvantage?

i thought he was working with the two of them? with floyd sr. in main role?

i read an article that alluded to this issue and it explained that there were a few reasons:

1. Apparently roger mayweather has experienced changes in health, mainly mentally. The article i read mentioned that many had noticed a difference in him and attribute it to the beatings he got in the ring. So i think Roger has deteriorated to the point where Floyd doesn't have the same confidence in him
2. Floyd wanting to be closer to dad and improve relationship.

but i think Roger will still be present at training camps and from the looks of it, will have some role.

Also, wasn't it Floyd Sr who taught PBF the defensive style early on when he was a kid? I've heard Floyd sr take credit for teaching his son a defensive style as a kid...

I think in the end, Floyd Jr has the higher IQ of all of them and he will just use Roger and Sr. as advisors and enjoy working his dad and uncle.

 

I said it makes no difference. Not because Roger may or may not be a better trainer, but I feel both are still assisting Floyd in some capacity, and certainly with their insight into his upcoming bout regarding strategy.

While I think the change due to Roger's health isn't exactly a positive, Roger is still in the picture overall, so I really don't feel it makes much of a difference. Both Roger and Floyd Sr. are still in his corner basically. Senior just gets the title of head trainer and will be in the ring. But I have no doubt all the preparation is finished in the gym with both Roger and Floyd Sr having input.

 

shut the hell up. Who do you think taught Mayweather Jr most of the stuff he knows atsch

 

I dunno... but I don't like the way Sr. handled Ricky Hatton in the PAC fight.

 

I believe Mamba had a great affect on Floyd as well. One of the things I noticed during the 24/7 family feud episode, was that Floyd was very disparaging to his father saying things like: "Uncle knows how to do it, he's been there. You haven't done it." Something to that affect, basically saying "Roger was a world champion, not you Dad. Back the F off."

I know it was a family argument, and things get said in anger or out of emotion: but it was clear to me Floyd had more respect for his Uncle.

 

I should have framed that better because I knew you could respond with that. I was in a rush though
To elaborate, Floyd Sr. is the one who took Floyd Jr. as a toddler and taught him how to box all the way up until he was 16 years old. Floyd Jr. was still a top amateur and on the rode to the Olympics at that time and his dad laid the foundation.

Now Roger took over at that point and Floyd's learned and grown so much since then.

My main point though is that Floyd Sr. obviously knows boxing. If he's a bad trainer, it's because of his personality, not his knowledge. Chad Dawson and Joan Guzman looked the best I've seen them under Floyd Sr.

 

i don't think it matters.. i don't think floyd listens to advice from his corner either way. I think he knows what he's doing 100% of the time.

 

Really?

Guzman couldn't even make weight when he had Floyd Sr. training him. Guzman is just a natural talent. Dude was a great fighter.

Whatever happened to him?

 

I dont even think Snr trains him. Mayweather trains himself.

 

I think Roger might be a bit better, hes more solid at least. Floyd looked great against Canelo and Sr can do a great job but he is a bit of a headcase. I think against Maidana Sr. wanted Jr to fight the way he did too much, wanting to live through him a bit but maybe it was beause they thought Maidana was no threat and he'd do a far better job now against Pacquio. Roger is probably the more sensible choice though Sr. is erratic and a total headcase really.

 

Not to stray off topic, but I think Ariza could be the biggest factor in terms of conditioning before the fight, as I don't believe Mayweather has ever had a S&C coach other than Ellerbe. Don't think it matters much who will be the strategist in the corner, because Mayweather is the Peyton Manning of boxing, only deference is, he'll read your OFFENSE, make his adjustments and pick you apart.

 

The chicken and egg argument from me: Mayweather trains himself, with the methods taught to him by his father and Uncle.

Mayweather is able to train himself, due to the knowledge passed down from his Father and Uncle. Just IMO. That's why Roger always seems so unconcerned when people ask him how in shape Floyd will be. "Floyd will be in shape, that's what he do."

But as of "today," I don't think Floyd needs much "direction." What Mayweather needs is a "team" to assist him in preparation, and that he has.