Advantages Marquez has over Pacman that Mayweather doesn't!

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  1. Baby-Faced Bum

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    -Willingness to trade
    -KO power

    Any others?

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  2. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Experience fighting Pacquiao? Fought him 4 times.

    I also think Mayweather could trade if he had too. IMO, that's when his power is most dangerous because when he begins trading is when he really begins to sit on his punches.
     
  3. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Better at throwing combinations? Mayweather is usually content throwing one or two shots before going on the defensive again.
     
  4. Baby-Faced Bum

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    You guys read my mind. They were the other two I thought about posting. :good
     
  5. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    KO power :lol::patsch.

    Are you talking about Marquez or Maroid? Don't get the two mixed up. 3 fights with PAC and Marquez couldn't even get a knock down. I think you're trying to refer to Maroid.
     
  6. victor879

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    Relevant to the topic, I've been trying to assist these forums with adding some good meat to keep the trolls at bay.

    Film Study, Marquez vs Juan Diaz, Adjustments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihJX7Wt-ZYQ

    Enjoy. Should add to this discussion nicely.
     
  7. miniq

    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Marquez can get hurt and still fight back
     
  8. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I also think Marquez is a better body puncher. Mayweather is great at jabbing to the body, but Marquez is better at landing the harder body shots. I could be wrong of course, but that is my impression.
     
  9. victor879

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    I would argue a "willingness to trade" is not a strength vs Pacquiao. That plays into his hands, and honestly, why Juan got dropped to the canvas on more than one occasion.

    Trading with Pacquiao allows him to utilize his hand speed and excellent punching technique. Cotto ran into the same issue. Was doing well when he was boxing and staying behind his jab. Soon as he opened up to trade, he got clipped.

    It is "foolish" to get into a trade with Pacquiao. VERY FOOLISH.
     
  10. Baby-Faced Bum

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    Maroid included. Though Marquez can still crack. :good
     
  11. victor879

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  12. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True, but it seems to be the only way to beat him. Pacquiao has 5 (really 4) game-plans to beat him and in all it was engaging with him.
     
  13. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He beat him by feinting and boxing. Not by trading. Pacquiao got clipped from a right hand counter over that sorry excuse for a jab of his.

    When Juan would go into "Mexican Aztec Warrior" mode, Pacquiao would win the exchange, and usually, the round. When Juan would box and be patient, he would get the better of the action.

    I still can't believe Roach hasn't worked on developing that jab. It really isn't very good. Maybe he's tried, but Manny just flicks it. He doesn't really do a "true jab" and put some power in it.
     
  14. Baby-Faced Bum

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    Maybe willingness to trade wasn't the best way of putting it. More like an anti-swarm device.
     
  15. fruitpunch

    fruitpunch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who has beaten Pacquiao without being willing to trade?

    Bradley had more success in his rematch because he was willing to trade