Bermane Stiverne will win back his WBC title

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  1. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Stiverne will never hearn another title shot. There are at least 6-7 boxers ahead him, while being generous, and he won't be gifted another one now that he has done his work and given it to Wildest.
     
  2. treeve

    treeve Active Member Full Member

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    this is why he was rushed to the hospital no post fight press conference.
    He almost died and was diagnosed by MEDICAL PROFFESIONALS with Rhabdo.
     
  3. treeve

    treeve Active Member Full Member

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    Here's the article.
    Former WBC heavyweight champion diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis
    Kevin Iole By Kevin Iole
    January 19, 2015 9:49 PM
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    Bermane Stiverne celebreates after defeatnig Chris Arreola in their WBC Heavyweight Championship match at Galen Center on May 10, 2014 in Los Angeles
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    Former WBC heavyweight champion Bermane Stiverne (L) was diagnosed with rhabdomyolosis following his loss to Deontay Wilder on Saturday at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas. (AFP Photo/Stephen Dunn)
    LAS VEGAS -- Bermane Stiverne said he knew something wasn't right with his body on Saturday before he stepped into the ring at the MGM Grand Garden to defend his WBC heavyweight title against Deontay Wilder.

    Stiverne was unable to warm up properly and kept asking trainer Don House to hold the mitts for him. It turns out that his suspicion that something was incorrect was right on the money.

    Stiverne was hospitalized for two nights at University Medical Center after dropping a unanimous decision to Wilder in a fight in which he was passive and didn't throw early enough punches. He was severely dehydrated and was diagnosed with rhabdomyolysis.

    Former UFC heavyweight champion Junior dos Santos suffered from rhabdomyolysis following his loss to Cain Velasquez at UFC 155 in 2012 in Las Vegas.

    Rhabdomyolysis is a condition in which the muscle fibers die and are released into the blood stream. One of the causes is extreme physical exertion. Stiverne was severely dehydrated even in the days leading up to his bout with Wilder, and after the fight, his urine was a brown color.

    "There were [doping control] agents there and I had to do my post-fight test, and I noticed that my urine was very dark," Stiverne said. "I thought it was blood. I called my manager [Camille Estephan] and [trainer Don] House over and told them. But when I got to the hospital, I found out it wasn't blood. It was from the muscle damage."


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    .Ex-WBC heavyweight champion Bermane Stiverne. (Photo by Steve Marcus/Getty Images)
    Ex-WBC heavyweight champion Bermane Stiverne. (Photo by Steve Marcus/Getty Images)
    Stiverne told Yahoo Sports that he felt he trained well, but wasn't paying enough attention to his fluid intake. He began training in August for the bout and pushed himself hard for a long time.
    He said he saw openings to punch in his fight with Wilder but was unable to react or he reacted slowly.

    "The thing that's frustrating is that I could see everything, but I couldn't pull the trigger," he said. "Or I pulled the trigger and it was a second late and he was able to move out of the way. But I saw the whole thing and that bothered me. But it ws really hard for me. I had to force myself to throw punches."

    Promoter Don King said he hopes to be given a rematch sometime down the line by Wilder so that Stiverne can show what he can do. King said he's not trying to block Wilder's next fight but said he wanted to make sure Stiverne gets the opportunity to compete when at fulll health.

    He said it was a shell of Stiverne in the ring. Stiverne said he felt dizzy in the dressing room after the fight and was desperate for water.

    "I like Deontay and have great respect for him and this is nothing against him," King said. "But this is about an injustice. Bermane wasn't healthy and wasn't able to do his job and he deserves the chance to show the world what he can do, so we want a rematch."
     
  4. treeve

    treeve Active Member Full Member

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    his extreme training in the desert for his cardio is what would have caused this
     
  5. flem1

    flem1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder will KO him early if they fight again.
     
  6. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    Hold up this illness causes damage to the muscles you have to have muscles In the first place !
     
  7. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    You forget how the WBC always ranks their former champions high and Stiverne provided he can win a couple of fights will be back in contention for another shot at the WBC belt.
     
  8. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Because he over-exerted himself IN THE FIGHT!!

    You may as well say that a guy who gets KO'd only lost because he was suffering from concussion!:lol:
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things.

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    4 put of his last 5 fights were WBC mandated.
    That boy is not gonna get another one.
     
  10. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    treeve no point in arguing with STB in his opinion the american is always right, he stands up for black americans more than jesse jackson

    his the only poster on here apart from trolls that will defend quillin to the death and he defends andre ward like it's everyone else's fault apart from wards
     
  11. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    Wilder should be forced to face Povetkin next or be stripped, but he's probably going to go on a bum tour..
     
  12. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the WBC love to protect there popular champs from the america's

    Cotto- will be aloud make an easy defense

    stevenson - not being made face kovalev

    mayweather - defend your title against at the below weight class, its all good:good

    Gacia - pay tough mandatories step aside money and fight bums instead we don't mind:good

    santa cruz - fight terrible opposition and duck the good fighters in your division, we love mexicans:lol:

    there heavyweight belts is the biggest joke though, first they had 2 guys outside the top 10 fight for the belt, then they mandatory was wilder who never beat a top 30 guy and their next mandatory was jennings another american. Povetkin becoming mandatory will really put a spanner in there works
     
  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    We Be Crooks are indeed a disgrace.. They desperately wanted Arreola as champ, gee I wonder why? :think Now Windmill is "champ", and I don't expect him to be forced to face anyone half decent for quite some time, it's a disgrace.... Jennings has my respect though, instead of waiting around he manned up and faced Wlad, probably knew it wasn't worth waiting around for that fraud Deontay to give him his shot.. Jennings could have waited for the easier fight in Wilder, but he took the harder fight because it was a sure thing. What's hurt the HW division for so long is lack of interest in top contender facing each other, and/or playing the waiting game(i.e waiting for the Klitschkos to retire/lose) It's good to see that's finally starting to change.
     
  14. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL.

    Even the article contradicts what Stiverne said in his prefight interview (at the arena) and what he said immediately after the fight -- said he felt great before the fight and after he said he felt great until the fight started (and afterward he says he felt it in warm-ups).

    Look up the symptoms of this condition. One of them is that your urine looks like motor oil. Think he didn't notice that if he had the condition before the fight?

    Look up the causes: overtraining can be one ... but so can trauma. Wilder beat him to a pulp so bad he put him in the hospital for a few days.
     
  15. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    Yeah it's a possibility. If Wilder is faced with choosing another top ranked HW or Stiverne, he might go with the guy he already had success over. The next time Stiverne might actually succeed in shattering his jaw.